I wish he were/ would be

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Kilimanjaro  #456713  Mon, 24 Dec 07 05:53 PM

1. I wish Hakan ---- taller.


A)were
B)would be


2. I wish Hakan ---- silent.


A)were
B)would be

I go for 1.A   2.A,  in that "would" is not followed by the verbs "be" and "have". I might be wrong, though. I'd like to hear your comments. Thanks alot.

  
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Feebs11  #456728  Mon, 24 Dec 07 07:33 PM
I agree with the first one, but feel #b is correct for the second. You would like Hakan to be quiet.
  
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Marius Hancu  #456733  Mon, 24 Dec 07 07:45 PM
A for both, IMO.
  
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MrPedantic  #456757  Mon, 24 Dec 07 09:59 PM

I would say:

1a) Fine.

1b) Not used.

2a) Slightly unusual, of a person; it suggests that H. should be by nature silent. But if you were a burglar troubled by squeaky footwear, you might say "I wish my shoes were silent".

2b) Fine; H. is talking, and you want him to stop.


Wild surmise:

a) I wish X were Y.

b) I wish X would be Y.

Does b) relate only to states over which X has some control?

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CalifJim  #456760  Mon, 24 Dec 07 10:23 PM

Wild surmise:

a) I wish X were Y.

b) I wish X would be Y.

Does b) relate only to states over which X has some control?


It works for me.  It seems that would be's are imperatives once removed.

I wish my sister [were / would be] more discreet about her sex life.
I wish my refrigerator [were / *would be] a color that matched the other appliances.


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Rotter  #456772  Mon, 24 Dec 07 11:11 PM

CalifJim wrote the following:

I wish my refrigerator [were / *would be] a color that matched the other appliances.

11. I wish my refrigerator were a colour that matched the other appliances.

22. I wish my refrigerator would be a colour that matched the other appliances.

I am trying to decipher the grammatical aspects of the two sentences.

The (11) is subjunctive whereas the (12) boders hypothetical. On the other hand subjunctive and hypothesis are almost the same.
Please correct me. I am not good at guessing.


  
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CalifJim  #456819  Tue, 25 Dec 07 03:39 AM
Rotter,

I think you misunderstand the use of the asterisk (*).
In giving examples of sentences, linguists and grammarians place an asterisk in front of sentences, phrases, and words which are ungrammatical.  So the asterisk means:  "This is wrong.  Don't use this."

Your second sentence should be written to show that it contains a grammatical mistake, like this:

*I wish my refrigerator would be a colour that matched the other appliances.

The point is that the refrigerator has no power to change its color!  There's no point in wishing for something that cannot happen!  We can only wish things would be a certain way if the wish can come true through some action on the part of the subject.  The refrigerator cannot paint itself a different colour. Smile [:)]

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Marius Hancu  #456929  Tue, 25 Dec 07 01:57 PM
 CalifJim wrote:

Wild surmise:

a) I wish X were Y.

b) I wish X would be Y.

Does b) relate only to states over which X has some control?


It works for me.  It seems that would be's are imperatives once removed.

I wish my sister [were / would be] more discreet about her sex life.
I wish my refrigerator [were / *would be] a color that matched the other appliances.


CJ
Interesting stuff ...
  
Anonymous  #457015  Tue, 25 Dec 07 09:08 PM

CalifJim wrote the following:

In giving examples of sentences, linguists and grammarians place an asterisk in front of sentences, phrases, and words which are ungrammatical.  So the asterisk means:  "This is wrong.  Don't use this."

I didn't know it. Thank you for telling me.
You are the first person to teach me the meaning of the asterisk in English grammar.
I hope it would be the same in French and other languages which has some international significance. Japaese is not an international language.

  
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