idiom VS proverbs?

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Hi, just want to know the difference between an idiom and a proverb. Thanks!!
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From the Cambridge dictionary-

Idiom

a group of words in a fixed order that have a particular meaning that is different from the meanings of each word understood on its own:

Proverb

a short sentence, etc., usually known by many people, stating something commonly experienced or giving advice:
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My2senseFrom the Cambridge dictionary-

Idiom

a group of words in a fixed order that have a particular meaning that is different from the meanings of each word understood on its own:

Proverb

a short sentence, etc., usually known by many people, stating something commonly experienced or giving advice:

It's still a bit vague... But accorcing to these definitions, a proverb must be a SENTENCE while an idiom is just a phrase (a group of words)???
Joey_fiveIt's still a bit vague... But accorcing to these definitions, a proverb must be a SENTENCE while an idiom is just a phrase (a group of words)???
Hello Joey5

You are right. A proverb is a saying such that almost everybody knows and you understand easily what it means. For example "Necessity is the mother of invention" is a proverb.

An idiom is a phrase such that almost nobody knows why it means so. "Kick the bucket" is an idiom to mean "die". Do you understand why it means so? I don't

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Hi,

Here's one theory, via Google.

Clive

KICK THE BUCKET - " . . . some etymologists say the phrase comes from . . . Slaughtered hogs, their throats slit, used to be hung by their heels, which were tied to a wooden block and the rope then thrown over a pulley that hoisted the animals up. Because hoisting the block was similar to raising a bucket from a well, the wooden block came to be called a 'bucket,' and the dying struggles of the hogs kicking against this 'bucket' supposedly gave birth to the phrase. There are other theories, however, and this old expression - it may date back to the 16th century - must be marked of unknown origin." From "Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins" by Robert Hendrickson (Facts on File, New York, 1997).
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Thank you, Clive, for the interesting information. By the way I notice you have changed your partner. Sounds like una mujer muy simpatica. Quiero hablar con ella.

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Pero ella me hable solamente, porque ella tiene ojos solamente para mí.

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Anonymous:
Ok. My question is what is the difference between a saying and a proberb?
Hi,

what is the difference between a saying and a proverb?

In practice, there's often not much difference.

My Oxford dictionary says this.

proverb - a short pithy saying in general use, held to embody a general truth.

You might like to note that we sometimes introduce a proverb by saying 'As the saying goes, (eg) a rolling stone gathers no moss'.

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