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Is it possible to use unless with if clauses type 2 and type 3? If not, can anyone tell me why?Emotion: wink

anicas
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Could you give me an example?
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Is this correct/possible?

Unless Susannah had fought for her dream, she wouldn't have had the chance to study for an engineering degree.

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AnicasIs this correct/possible?

Unless Susannah had fought for her dream, she wouldn't have had the chance to study for an engineering degree.

ThanksEmotion: embarrassed
It seems that "unless" doesn't match past participles well in your sample, but it does make sense in the following context:

Unless Susannah fights for her dream, she won't have the chance to study for an engineering degree.
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AnicasIs this correct/possible?

Unless Susannah had fought for her dream, she wouldn't have had the chance to study for an engineering degree.

ThanksEmotion: embarrassed
I think this is possible. See the two examples here:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Unless+*+had+fought+*+would+have%22&btnG=Google+S...
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'Unless' sounds unnatural to me. If Sarah hadn't fought for her dream, she wouldn't have had the chance to study for an engineering degree. Unless that usage of 'unless' is out of date, I don't think it's correct.
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Hi, just my opinion:
I don't think that sentence you wrote is ok. Maybe you want to say "If Susannah hadn't fought for her dream, she wouldn't have had the chance to study for..."
As Angliholic said, I think this could be a good example where "unless" can be used: "Unless Susannah fights for her dream, she won't have the chance to study for an engineering degree."Emotion: smile

Edited later. I just checked my dictionary, I found a tip: "If you know that something has not happened or that sth is not true, use if ... not." If you weren’t always in such a hurry (= but you are), your work would be much better. Your work would be much better unless you were always in such a hurry.
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Oops, I seem to have used a wrong name. Emotion: big smile Anyway, the grammatical part was right.
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Is it possible to use unless with if clauses type 2 and type 3?
Yes. While not the most common structures in the language, you can find quite a few of these scattered here and there by using Google.

Here are some I found. I modified some of them for the sake of brevity.

Type 2.

Unless he had it in a signed contract it would be up to the advisor to decide.
He would never be satisfied unless he had his own restaurant.
This would not be the case unless he were married to her.
No one would make estimates from these equations unless he were convinced that he knew how to interpret the evidence from the field studies.
On five thousand [$24,300] any Prime Minister without private income and dependent on his salary would be living on charity in two years after he left the office, unless he were an extremely careful person or unless he were supported by friends.

Type 3.

He would have had no way of knowing unless he had been present with them that night.
Joseph would never have disclosed that information unless he had made a previous agreement with her.
How could the man have arrived at the same time as the train unless he had been on the train?
He wouldn't have done it unless he had known them to be powerless to silence him.
He would not have left his wife and daughters unless he had been forced to do so.

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