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Believer  #295071  Sun, 19 Nov 06 09:04 AM

Hi,

Is it that we can make subjuctives mainly by adding wording like 'I suggest', 'I order', or 'I demand' to the types of the following imperatives?    

Imperative form:

Pick up the trash. (Sure, this is in a second-person mode.)

Subjunctive modes: (Sure, the following are in the third-person mode.)

I suggest he pick up the trash.

I order he pick up the trash.

I demand he pick up the trash.

Sorry, what do call the words in parentheses? Clause? Wording? Phrases?

  
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Yankee  #295076  Sun, 19 Nov 06 09:46 AM
This subjunctive has the same form as the bare infinitive and, yes, it tends to be used mainly with certain (specific) verbs and phrases.  It is not restricted to the third person.  Here are some verbs and phrases with which the subjunctive might be typically used:

ask (that)
be determined (that)
command (that)
demand (that)
emphasize (that)
insist (that)
move (that)
propose (that)
recommend (that)
request (that)
require (that)
suggest (that)
urge (that)

on the condition (that)
provided (that)

It is necessary/important/essential/imperative/vital/critical/crucial/vital (that)




  
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Believer  #295131  Sun, 19 Nov 06 12:51 PM

Thank you.

Let us just concentrate on a few of them.

Are these correct subjunctives?

I ask that he deliver this box now.

I ask that this box be delivered now. 

I insist that he deliver this box to him now.

I insist that this box  be delivered now.

I think you cannot use the same sentential structures for many verbal?? types.   

  
Yankee  #295133  Sun, 19 Nov 06 12:58 PM
Your sentences are all OK.

I don't understand your last question, though.

  
Snn  #295142  Sun, 19 Nov 06 01:22 PM

we can add the noun forms of the urgency verbs/adjectives to the list given by Yankee.

For example: recommendation

It was the recommendation that he be there on time.

  
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Anonymous  #434983  Fri, 26 Oct 07 05:06 AM
Can you write this kind of sentences in negative form? How? This is my try:

"We request that the government not allow such unethical practices."

Please correct any mistakes. Thanks.
  
Yankee  #435015  Fri, 26 Oct 07 06:41 AM
Hi Anon

Your negative subjunctive looks good to me. Smile [:)]
  
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