Teo  +  210429 Tue, 28 Mar 06 06:48 PM Wall maps of the United States and the world (ideally hanging in the front of the classroom). A banner above the black board in front of the classroom reads, Wanted: Inquiring Minds. What's the difference between in the front of the classroom and in front of the classroom? Teo Joined on Tue, Sep 28 2004 Taiwan Contributing Member 1,631 Thank you very much for your reply. Difference Between

	davkett  +  210466 Tue, 28 Mar 06 10:51 PM Well, precisely speaking, I prefer in the front of the classroom.   Though I doubt most readers/listeners would misinterpret in front of in this context, the phrase typically refers to a location behind which is the next thing.  The classroom here is not meant to be understood as behind the blackboard. davkett Joined on Tue, Jun 7 2005 Pennsylvania, USA Senior Member 2,788 "The rose stays fresh in its name..." -Bernard of Morlay

	Clive  +  210477 Tue, 28 Mar 06 11:48 PM Hi, You might also speak of 'in front of the class' - the teacher stands in front of the class, (ie in front of the students.) Best wishes. Clive  Clive Joined on Thu, Oct 28 2004 Canada Veteran Member 29,585 El tango argentino es un pensamiento triste que se puede bailar (The tango argentino is a sad thought which can be danced) Enrique Santos Discépolo

	Welkins2139  +  210697 Wed, 29 Mar 06 03:08 PM " in the front of the classroom "   means the part of the classroom which faces forward.  " in front of "  means   " close to the front part of something " A banner above the black board in front of the classroom reads, Wanted: Inquiring Minds.   ( i think this is wrong because missing the definite "the". Welkins2139 Joined on Sun, Oct 9 2005 Full Member 414 Determination, Dedication and Devotion!

	paco2004  +  210875 Thu, 30 Mar 06 03:59 AM My dictionary (OED) suggests "in the front of X" is an archaic version of "in front of" used up to the middle of 19th century. It says both mean "at a position where one can face X". This means the position is outside of X. As to Teo's sentences, I think "in (the) front of the classroom" should be "at the head of the classroom"    Wall maps of the United States and the world (ideally hanging at the head of the classroom).    A banner above the black board at the head of the classroom reads, Wanted: Inquiring Minds.   paco paco2004 Joined on Wed, Nov 17 2004 Senior Member 4,095 In Japan today even dogs are learning how to bow-wow in English.

	davkett  +  210924 Thu, 30 Mar 06 06:24 AM  Paco2004 wrote: My dictionary (OED) suggests "in the front of X" is an archaic version of "in front of" used up to the middle of 19th century. It says both mean "at a position where one can face X". This means the position is outside of X. As to Teo's sentences, I think "in (the) front of the classroom" should be "at the head of the classroom"    Wall maps of the United States and the world (ideally hanging at the head of the classroom).    A banner above the black board at the head of the classroom reads, Wanted: Inquiring Minds.    I'm a bit confused by that OED statement.  Here's a quite typical example where the phrase cannot be replaced either with at the head of  or  in front of:  The fangs are in the front of the mouth rather than the rear. or, It was a slit in the front of a skirt. or, A teenaged boy and girl are seated in the front of an open, yellow roadster convertible.       davkett

	Teo  +  210927 Thu, 30 Mar 06 06:40 AM A teenaged boy and girl are seated in the front of an open, yellow roadster convertible. in (the) front: in the part of a car where the driver and the controls are Macmillan English Dictionary For Advanced Learners of American English First published 2002 Teo American English

	paco2004  +  210928 Thu, 30 Mar 06 06:41 AM  Davkett wrote: I'm a bit confused by that OED statement.  Here's a quite typical example where the phrase cannot be replaced either with at the head of  or  in front of:  The fangs are in the front of the mouth rather than the rear. or, It was a slit in the front of a skirt. or, A teenaged boy and girl are seated in the front of an open, yellow roadster convertible. I see. The OED also defines "front" itself as "foremost part". Your uses seems fit to this sense. paco    paco2004

	davkett  +  211092 Thu, 30 Mar 06 04:54 PM  Teo wrote: A teenaged boy and girl are seated in the front of an open, yellow roadster convertible. in (the) front: in the part of a car where the driver and the controls are Macmillan English Dictionary For Advanced Learners of American English First published 2002 I'm unsure, Teo,  as to the effect you want from your quotation. My point is that there is quite a different meaning between saying  "a teenage boy and girl are seated in front of an open, yellow roadster convertible", and saying, " a teenage boy and girl are seated in the front of an open yellow roadster convertible".  Only the second version places the teenagers inside the car. davkett American English