alc24  +  963091 Fri, 06 Nov 09 05:23 AM Could you tell me what you think please? Optional or not?  1 In order to make money I had to lie. / I had to lie (in order) to make money. thanks alc24 Joined on Sat, Jul 25 2009 Contributing Member 1,441

	CalifJim  +  963103 Fri, 06 Nov 09 05:42 AM alc24 “Optional or not? ” Optional, at least in this specific case, and in most cases.  I have a vague recollection that there is a post somewhere that shows a few unusual cases where in order is required, but I don't know where it is.  Or I may have imagined it, for that matter. CJ CalifJim Joined on Mon, Aug 2 2004 California Veteran Member 22,447 "There are no facts, only interpretations" - Nietzsche