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Newguest  +  804550 Fri, 03 Jul 09 03:34 PM
Hello

 

The guitarist was working on his guitar, which makes a beautiful haunting ghost of a guitar sound, and it was going on in one room while the bass chords were going on in another, and I heard them in stereo working together.

 

Does "I heard them in stereo working together" mean that I heard them (guitarist, bassist) playing together at the same time in two different rooms?

Best answer by optilang  +  804687 Fri, 03 Jul 09 06:00 PM
Hi


Yes, he could hear them both, at the same time.

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Avangi  +  807589 Sun, 05 Jul 09 05:35 PM
It seems strange.  "Stereo" is usually applied to a recording, in which you recreate reality by playing the multiple tracks over separate speakers, corresponding to the separate mikes or pickups from which the recording was created.

If you're in a room with a bassist and a guitarist who are playing acoustically, what you hear is sterophonic, or natural.  Your two ears hear two slightly different versions.


If you repeat this with the bassist in the next room, you have the same thing.


If the two instruments are electrically amplified, and fed to two separate speakers, you have stereo.   If they're both fed into the same speaker, you have mono, or monaural (not stereo).


I don't know what he means by "bass chords."  Double stops are rare on the bass.  Of course, the bass supports the harmony, and the chords are implied by a good bass line.

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Newguest  +  807622 Sun, 05 Jul 09 06:14 PM
I thought it was a simple thing/question Avangi

Maybe these two instruments were electrically amplified and fed to two separate speakers. I don't know. It was all taking place in a studio.

AlpheccaStars  +  807651 Sun, 05 Jul 09 06:42 PM
Hi Newguest:


If you were in a studio and heard both at the same time, I would say "in concert", not "in stereo".

"In stereo" also implies that you heard with both ears, so if you closed your eyes, your brain could figure out where they were in relation to each other.


It is almost never simple!

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Avangi  +  807753 Sun, 05 Jul 09 08:22 PM
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“ Does "I heard them in stereo working together" mean that I heard them (guitarist, bassist) playing together at the same time in two different rooms?
  Sorry.  The simple answer is "yes, and no." It all depends on your understanding of "stereo."  Before I was born, "stereo" was applied to a primitive form of 3-D.  Modern stereo is 3-D for the ear.

A device called the "stereopticon" used two cameras to simultaneously shoot still pictures from slightly different vantages.  The device then allowed each eye to see only it's own picture, creating the illusion of depth.  In the early 50's this was modernized as the "Viewmaster."


Is it possible to have stereo or 3-D without some kind of recording??  Again, it depends on what you mean.  I've heard people say that a dog doesn't see in 3-D.  What does that mean? 

I think your use of "stereo" is a similarly poetic use.  But you can't understand that if you don't know what "stereo" means.


Your author has already said that he heard them playing together at the same time in two different rooms.  So of course that's what your sentence means.   But that's not what "stereo" means.


We don't know if the two guys were working on the same song, or if they were synchronized in any way.  It would be extremely unlikely.  What they were doing may have happened to fit together for a short while.


In my honest opinion, the reason he brought "stereo" into the picture is that the experience reminded him in a poetic way of how in modern recording, tracks may be recorded separately and then put together to produce a stereo effect.  The stereo effect in this case was unintentional.

Newguest  +  807760 Sun, 05 Jul 09 08:29 PM
Avangi

 

In my honest opinion, the reason he brought "stereo" into the picture is that the experience reminded him in a poetic way of how in modern recording, tracks may be recorded separately and then put together to produce a stereo effect.  The stereo effect in this case was unintentional.

 

 

I think you're right here. Thanks.

optilang  +  807906 Sun, 05 Jul 09 10:45 PM

Hi

 


My understanding of stereo is a sound signal that has been separated into two signals. It is not a question of how many tracks have been mixed into each signal. Mono has only one signal, irrespective of the number of tracks recorded.


I used to have a Fostex 4 track cassette recorder. In fact I could record a lot more than 4 tracks by 'bouncing' the tracks (I believe Buddy Holly was the first to use such a technique). From the final tracks I could then mix down to either mono or stereo.


By the way, the technique of creating sounds so that they appear anywhere from the left to the right speaker is known as 'panning'.


As for 'bass chords' - any bass player will know that it is possible to play chords on a bass guitar.  

Avangi  +  808010 Mon, 06 Jul 09 12:26 AM
optilang
“ My understanding of stereo is a sound signal that has been separated into two signals. It is not a question of how many tracks have been mixed into each signal. Mono has only one signal, irrespective of the number of tracks recorded.  I agree almost 100%.  You can mix an infinite number of tracks into one signal, which would then be on one track.  (Why would you want the same signal on multiple tracks?)  What you now have is monaural, regardless of how many speakers you feed with it.

It's impossible to split a single track/signal into two track/signals, unless you have access to the original multiple tracks and remix the whole thing.  The only thing you might do is to slightly delay the second track, creating the illusion that one ear is hearing the music from a greater distance.

You could do your original mixing to a dozen or more tracks, as in the movie Surround Sound technique, sending them all to different speakers.  However, you only have two ears, so your brain will interpret the result in the same way it would interpret two tracks/signals.  You could achieve the same effect with the panning technique you describe.


As for 'bass chords' - any bass player will know that it is possible to play chords on a bass guitar.  I didn't mean to imply that it's impossible.  I said double stops are rare on the bass.  This is especially true in popular music.  You might find it in a jazz solo on a stand-up bass.  To stop more than two strings in the lower register produces nothing but mud.  It's not unusual to hear a whole concert in which the bass player never plays more than one note at a time.

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