in the late 1990s, /s/ or /z/?

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Osee  #323765  Sat, 03 Feb 07 10:45 PM
as titled, please tell me the pronounciation of s following 1990. Thanks a lot.
  
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Marvin A.  #323789  Sun, 04 Feb 07 12:32 AM
Ninety ends with an [ i ] , as do twenty, thirty, forty, etc. Therefore [ z ]
  
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Osee  #323815  Sun, 04 Feb 07 01:48 AM
Yes, I see. Thank you, Marvin.
  
Mithunbarik  #325854  Thu, 08 Feb 07 01:52 AM

 Marvin A. wrote:
Ninety ends with an [ i ] , as do twenty, thirty, forty, etc. Therefore [ z ]

Hi Marvin,

I did not quite understand the logic behind this. Should I use [ z ] everywhere instead of [ s ] when it comes after [ i ] ?

Please explain.

Regrads,

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Kooyeen  #326452  Thu, 08 Feb 07 07:05 PM
Hi, it depends whether a word ends in a voiced or voiceless sound. Vowel sounds are voiced, consonants can be either voiced or voiceless. Take a look at this:

http://eleaston.com/pr/s-z-Iz-pattern.html

Click on "voiced sounds" and "voiceless sound", you'll find some info. Consider that not everyone follows that "rules". I sometimes hear "kids", "girls" and similar words pronounced with an /s/ sound. There are regional variations too, I guess.
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CalifJim  #326483  Thu, 08 Feb 07 08:03 PM
And Chicago's team, the Bears (/s/), as pronounced by some Chicagoans.
Nevertheless, these /s/'s are unusual.  I would not recommend using them under any circumstances.

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Marvin A.  #326516  Thu, 08 Feb 07 09:59 PM
Some Northern Midwestern dialects with a heavy Germanic substratum have final consonant devoicing.
  
Mithunbarik  #326584  Fri, 09 Feb 07 12:29 AM

 Kooyeen wrote:
Hi, it depends whether a word ends in a voiced or voiceless sound. Vowel sounds are voiced, consonants can be either voiced or voiceless. Take a look at this:

http://eleaston.com/pr/s-z-Iz-pattern.html

Click on "voiced sounds" and "voiceless sound", you'll find some info. Consider that not everyone follows that "rules". I sometimes hear "kids", "girls" and similar words pronounced with an /s/ sound. There are regional variations too, I guess.
Smile [:)]

Thanks a lot!

  
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