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ahava_yin  #490494  Wed, 19 Mar 08 04:21 AM

Hi. this is an article about McDonald's.

McDonald's began switching to frozen French fries (from traditional way of scratching, frying every day) . A familiar food had been transformed into a highly processed industrial ______.

Do you put produce or commodity here? Thank you!

  
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Mister Micawber  #490522  Wed, 19 Mar 08 05:33 AM
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Produce does not work;perhaps product is meant.  Product is better than commodity, I think.

What does scratching mean here?
  
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Creativeguru  #490523  Wed, 19 Mar 08 05:36 AM

'Commodity' is the best fit

Commodity in this context means product, Mcdonald is a brand who rolls out product in the market as per the customers' requirement

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ahava_yin  #490628  Wed, 19 Mar 08 12:29 PM

Thank you for your notes.

To Mister Micawber,

The original passge is:

During McDonald's early years French fries were made from scratch every day. Russet Burbank potatoes were peeled, cut into shoestrings, and fried in its kitchens. As the chain expanded nationwide, in the mid-1960s, it sought to cut labour costs, reduce the number of suppliers, and ensure that its fries tasted the same at every restaurant. McDonald's began switching to frozen French fries in 1966. The change had a profound effect on the nation's agriculture and diet. A familiar food had been transformed into a highly processed industrial__.

 I checked the word "produce", with the explanation, something produced, a product; farm products. I know the phrase "farm produce" is used. what other phrases can I use the noun form of produce? Will "industry produce" sound ok?

Thank you! 

  
Grammar Geek  #490635  Wed, 19 Mar 08 12:48 PM

Just a quck note first on "scratching": "From scratch" means from raw materials. I bake cookies from scratch, and never buy the frozen dough. It's a fixed idiom, and you can't change it around.

Produce is what comes right from the farm: Raw, unpeeled, etc. Once it's processed, it's no longer produce. (An exception may be that you can buy sliced packaged mushrooms in the "produce aisle" in the grocery store.) There is no way that peeled, sliced, seasoned potatoes would ever be considered produce, any more than my bacon-cheddar hamburger is considered a cow.

 

  
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ahava_yin  #491045  Thu, 20 Mar 08 01:14 PM

Thank you Grammar Geek. Your note is quite vivid and now I can see clearly the meaning of farm produce. And "from scratch" is new to me, I just thought it referred to the peeling action. Your note is so helpful.

I still want to know when do you use the other meaning of produce, Something produced; a product.

Looking forward to your note. Thanks again.

  
Marius Hancu  #491053  Thu, 20 Mar 08 01:36 PM
Industrial produce is a no-no.

Read

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(click on noun

to see the right definition.  

Eventually: industrial products.  

  
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Grammar Geek  #491054  Thu, 20 Mar 08 01:39 PM

The noun, PRO-duce, is agricultural products: fruits, vegetables.

The verb, pro-DUCE, makes to make something.

If you make something, in common usage, you have a product, not produce. Yes, the dictionary lists "something produced" as a meaning for "produce," but it's not the common meaning.

 

  
ahava_yin  #491056  Thu, 20 Mar 08 01:43 PM

Thank you for the definite answer and the website gave me a more precise understanding. Now I'm certain to use industrial commodity or industrial products.

But still, I wonder whether you use the meaning of "something produced", the first definition given by merriam-webster. Thanks again

  
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