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Taka  #325590  Wed, 07 Feb 07 02:16 PM
An appealing fantasy would be a great conference of the world's nations where, instead of politicians or statesmen, each country would send its leading humorists to represent it.

Is this infinitive 'to represent it':

(1) adverbial (i.e. ...send its leading humorists in order to represent it)
or
(2) adjectival (i.e. the infinitive refers to 'its leading humorists')

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Marius Hancu  #325592  Wed, 07 Feb 07 02:19 PM
Adverbial
  
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Inchoateknowledge  #325614  Wed, 07 Feb 07 02:53 PM

 Taka wrote:
An appealing fantasy would be a great conference of the world's nations where, instead of politicians or statesmen, each country would send its leading humorists to represent it.

Is this infinitive 'to represent it':

(1) adverbial (i.e. ...send its leading humorists in order to represent it)
or
(2) adjectival (i.e. the infinitive refers to 'its leading humorists')

?

infinitive reason clause. It does not modify anything, still less a verb. No adjectical or adverbial clause

No modification but elaboration

  
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Taka  #325647  Wed, 07 Feb 07 04:02 PM
Inchoateknowledge, are you familiar with these definitions?

INFINITIVE PHRASES
Infinitive phrases are composed of an infinitive verb (the base form of the verb preceded by to) and any modifing adverbs or prepositional phrases. The infinitive phrase has three functions: noun, adjective, adverb.

Examples:
My duty as a coach is to teach skills. (infinitive phrase functions as a noun)
My sister wanted a cat to love. (infinitive phrase functions as an adjective)
Bill is eager to work on his skating. (infinitive phrase functions adverbially, modifying an adjective)

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Inchoateknowledge  #325677  Wed, 07 Feb 07 05:03 PM

taka, are you familiar with this:

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I meant infinitive clause, not infinite, sorry. Try to expand your imagination, but before that, learn some manners.

Now I see I wrote the right way.

Oce more, in my opinion, the infinitive clause in the sentence does not modify anything.

  
Taka  #325683  Wed, 07 Feb 07 05:15 PM
 Inchoateknowledge wrote:

Try to expand your imagination, but before that, learn some manners.



Manners?? What do you mean??

I just gave you some information that I thought might help you.

Why do I have to learn some manners when I gave someone some help??

I don't understand at all.
  
Marius Hancu  #325684  Wed, 07 Feb 07 05:28 PM
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infinitive clause
: a type of non-finite clause,
with the verb in the infinitive. Infinitive clauses may or may not
contain the infinitive marker to. A subject may or may not be present;
the subject of an infinitive clause may be realized as a noun phrase
or as a prepositional phrase with for. E.g.: I want you to understand
this. They managed to solve the problem. To err is human. It would be
highly unusual for Peter to admit his mistake. An infinitive clause
may serve a
nominal function (as in the examples above), an adjectival
function (This is a drug to betaken at bedtime), or an adverbial
function (Read on to find out more about how the programme works)


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Read on to find out more about how the programme works.
means
Read on [in order to] to find out more about how the programme works.
very similar, IMO, to what is present in the original posting:
... would send its leading humorists [in order to] represent it


Also, see:
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Inchoateknowledge  #325742  Wed, 07 Feb 07 07:21 PM
 Taka wrote:
 Inchoateknowledge wrote:

Try to expand your imagination, but before that, learn some manners.



Manners?? What do you mean??

I just gave you some information that I thought might help you.

Why do I have to learn some manners when I gave someone some help??

I don't understand at all.

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Inchoateknowledge  #325746  Wed, 07 Feb 07 07:29 PM

An appealing fantasy would be a great conference of the world's nations where, instead of politicians or statesmen, each country would send its leading humorists to represent it.

each country sends humorist ((so as) to) represent their country.

the two clauses are joined by an ellipted adverbial connector.

Adverbs modify verbs. In my book, 'send' is not modified here. The reason clause expands the meaning of the verb, but does not modify it.

  
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