Avangi  +  960409 Tue, 03 Nov 09 05:15 AM Anonymous “doubtful to you that the past participle form of intransitive nouns like "vanish" and "sleep" could function as adjectives?”   Just as an aside, we should remark the difference between the present and past participles in this respect. The intransitive "to sleep" (no transitive usage) gives us the common adjective, "the sleeping princess," but "the sleeped princess," and "She is sleeped " are not used. (In the sentence "She is sleeping," I don't think "sleeping" is an adjective, but rather a present participle as a component of the present continuous tense: She sleeps; She is sleeping; She does sleep. I think "to be plus adjective" would be a bit of a stretch here.) Avangi Joined on Mon, Nov 19 2007 Veteran Member 8,172 ". . . le plaisir delicieux et toujours nouveau d'une occupation inutile." - Henri de Regnier Difference Between, Nouns, Adjectives, Usages

	Avangi  +  960475 Tue, 03 Nov 09 07:14 AM << 1. a much waited dance performance   2. a much appeared news item >> Sadly, I don't recognize either of them. I'd say, "a much awaited dance performance" and "an oft appearing news item" While these non-finite verbals supposedly have no tense, there does seem to be a difference between the past and present participles.  The "awaiting" seems to have taken place in the past, while the "appearing" seems to be continuing in the present. Best wishes,  - A. Avangi

	dimsumexpress  +  960534 Tue, 03 Nov 09 09:01 AM These are past participles used passively as adjective, aren't they?   A much deserved vacation... A desparately needed supply is on the way... A recently discovered oil reserve off the coast of...       dimsumexpress Joined on Mon, Oct 12 2009 Full Member 273 Adjectives

	Avangi  +  960656 Tue, 03 Nov 09 12:35 PM Yes, they are, and (I presume you realize) their verbs are transitive: I deserve a vacation. I need supplies. I discover oil every year. In each of these sentences, the verb takes a direct object. Rgdz,  - A. Avangi Direct Objects, Sentences

	Huevos  +  960673 Tue, 03 Nov 09 12:56 PM Avangi “King James' boys came up with "He is risen, as he said,"” In 1611 the perfect aspect was not established in English the way it is today. In modern translations they use "he has been raised". A native might be able to pull off this archaic construction for effect but I would advise any foreigner to steer well clear of it as to most listeners it will just sound like incorrect English. Huevos Joined on Tue, Mar 25 2008 Regular Member 626 British Native Constructions

	Avangi  +  960678 Tue, 03 Nov 09 01:00 PM Well said. Avangi

	CalifJim  +  960903 Tue, 03 Nov 09 07:20 PM Huevos “A native might be able to pull off this archaic construction for effect but I would advise any foreigner to steer well clear of it as to most listeners it will just sound like incorrect English.” Amen. CJ CalifJim Joined on Mon, Aug 2 2004 California Veteran Member 22,389 "There are no facts, only interpretations" - Nietzsche Constructions

	Avangi  +  961005 Tue, 03 Nov 09 10:10 PM dimsumexpress “ These are past participles used passively as adjective, aren't they? A much deserved vacation... A desparately needed supply is on the way... A recently discovered oil reserve off the coast of...  ” I may have been too hasty here. What do you mean by "used passively?" I can reaffirm the rest of it, but I guess I missed the "used passively." Avangi Adjectives