Candice In Canada  +  144363 Tue, 04 Oct 05 03:56 AM can anybody explain what is "irony"and show a example for me? Thank you! Candice In Canada Joined on Sat, Sep 10 2005 Junior Member 55 Irony

	Clive  +  144371 Tue, 04 Oct 05 04:47 AM Hi, Let me try to explain through an example. You do something stupid, and I say 'That was smart!' That's an ironic remark. I mean one thing, but I say the opposite. Best wishes, Clive PS That's a basic kind of definition. It can get a bit more compicated. You might also want to consider 'sarcasm', which is a form of irony but more hurtful in nature. Clive Joined on Thu, Oct 28 2004 Canada Veteran Member 29,583 El tango argentino es un pensamiento triste que se puede bailar (The tango argentino is a sad thought which can be danced) Enrique Santos Discépolo Irony

	Candice In Canada  +  144567 Tue, 04 Oct 05 10:31 PM so irony may be kidding when people are talking, but sarcasm will be more serious? can irony be like a thought of a person or someone narrates something? Candice In Canada Irony

	Clive  +  144570 Tue, 04 Oct 05 10:43 PM Hi, so irony may be kidding when people are talking, but sarcasm will be more serious? Yes.Irony does not have to be personal comments, either. eg It's puring with rain, and I say to my friend 'This is a good day for our picnic!' I'm expressing one meaning by saying the opposite. can irony be like a thought of a person or someone narrates something? Yes. It's not just words, it can be an 'idea' or 'thought'. It's like 'a meeting between opposites'. eg Tom asks Mary to marry him. She refuses, because she loves money and Tom is very poor. She marries Fred, instead. The day after Mary's wedding to Fred, Tom wins ten million dollars in the lottery. That's ironic. Best wishes, Clive Clive Weddings, Irony

	Candice In Canada  +  144573 Tue, 04 Oct 05 10:56 PM It seems like sarcasm is more directed at a person? do u have example to show the difference between irony and sarcasm? can the last example "Tom asks Mary...."also shows sarcasm? Candice In Canada Difference Between, Irony

	Tamilan  +  144586 Tue, 04 Oct 05 11:40 PM Werid ... I got a handout about irony today in english class .. and i joined this forum today...and saw this topic... here is what I got... it may help you out.. Tamilan Joined on Tue, Oct 4 2005 New Member 05 Irony

	Tamilan  +  144588 Tue, 04 Oct 05 11:50 PM by the way, what grade are you at? This is fairly easy to search on the internet and find the difference: Cambridge Dictionary says: Irony: a means of expression which suggests a different, usually humorous or angry, meaning for the words used: Her voice heavy with irony, Simone said, "We're so pleased you were able to stay so long." (= Her voice made it obvious they were not pleased). -------------------- Sarcasm: the use of remarks which clearly mean the opposite of what they say, and which are made in order to hurt someone's feelings or to criticize something in an amusing way: "You have been working hard, " he said with heavy sarcasm, as he looked at the empty page. -------------------- (http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=42023&dict=CALD) Tamilan Irony

	Clive  +  144668 Wed, 05 Oct 05 05:05 AM Hi, can the last example "Tom asks Mary...."also shows sarcasm? No, sarcasm requires words. In the 'Tom and Mary' example, the irony was not spoken, it lay in what happened. Clive Clive Irony

	Candice In Canada  +  144976 Wed, 05 Oct 05 10:21 PM haha~i'm in grade 10 english but i'm grade 11, what about you? by the way, i just out of ESL.  Thank you for ur handout sheet Candice In Canada