Irony

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Harish09  #415190  Thu, 06 Sep 07 10:10 PM
hello teacher,

thanks in advance

i want to know the meaning of "irony".
i have gone through the meaning of irony in merriam-webster's collegiate dictionary.The dictionary says irony means "a pretense of ignorance and of willingness to learn from another assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions conspicous by adroit questioning--- called also socratic irony".

It is hard to understand the meaning of it so please help
me.

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Anonymous  #415202  Thu, 06 Sep 07 10:49 PM
Hello, Harish.

Well, this is the definition of a very special kind of irony. In Russion it is not called irony at all: we call it the Socrate's method. Socrate thus helped people to get to the truth themselfes.

Socrates used to call himself an accoucheur because he only helped the truth to be born. Thus, the person came to the right conclusions themselves.

What the dictionary says:

«a pretense of ignorance and of willingness
One behaves as if he was a bit ignorant (knew little) and wanted

«to learn from another»
(clear)

«assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions»
And he does so (= "assumes" this role) in order to make his intercolluctor's incorrect opinion

«conspicous by adroit questioning»

apparent to himself by (means of) asking him proper "leading questions".

HTH
  
Ant_222  #415203  Thu, 06 Sep 07 10:49 PM
Hello, Harish.

Well, this is the definition of a very special kind of irony. In Russion it is not called irony at all: we call it the Socrate's method. Socrate thus helped people to get to the truth themselfes.

Socrates used to call himself an accoucheur because he only helped the truth to be born. Thus, the person came to the right conclusions themselves.

What the dictionary says:

«a pretense of ignorance and of willingness
One behaves as if he was a bit ignorant (knew little) and wanted

«to learn from another»
(clear)

«assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions»
And he does so (= "assumes" this role) in order to make his intercolluctor's incorrect opinion

«conspicous by adroit questioning»

apparent to himself by (means of) asking him proper "leading questions".

HTH
  
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Goodman  #415212  Thu, 06 Sep 07 11:24 PM

An irony is when you are the boss of someone who disagrees with everything you said in meetings, so hated that you will fire him on the first sign of mistake by him.  And without realizing the relationship, you have been seriously dating his daughter for 6 months and just been invited to his birthday party organized by her.  ooops!

  
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