Ville_maddengurl  +  321246 Mon, 29 Jan 07 02:28 AM i want to give American accent up and learn English accent to talk more intelligible...is it OK now, MrP ..? Ville_maddengurl Joined on Tue, Oct 18 2005 Adana Contributing Member 1,710 Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up...(Thomas A. Edison) Accents, Learn English, American English, Lazy English, American Accents

	Kooyeen  +  321251 Mon, 29 Jan 07 02:37 AM  Ville_maddengurl wrote: i want to escape from American accent and get English accent... it is the most intelligible one ! You'll never succeed, American English will chase you and will catch ya! It's everywhere, you can't run away, you can't hide... it'll eventually find you, and it'll be like: "Oh my God Ville Maddengurl, it's been like, a while, so whassup? We are like, going to the mall or something. Are you coming?" ---- And then it'll be too late to run away, Ville Maddengurl, you're gonna answer: "Oh my God, like, totally!" Ok now, seriously, I don't think British accents are simpler to understand. I actually don't know what accents are simple to understand, I would say American, but probably because I'm only used to American English. So the simplest is probably the one you use everyday or hear most of the time. Italian is simple, for example, isn't it? Kooyeen Joined on Thu, Dec 22 2005 Italy Senior Member 4,933 Parental Advisory / Explicit Posts Accents, American English, Lazy English, American Accents

	Ville_maddengurl  +  321277 Mon, 29 Jan 07 03:27 AM So whassup? lol that was good!  Kooyeen wrote: So the simplest is probably the one you use everyday or hear most of the time. That's a good point! I hate American English but people around me are using it enduringly... Normally ,i think it's kinda clear. But the English people i talk think that my spoken style is rubbish... Even i have problems with Turkish accent... i cant pronounce Turkish words correctly- i live in Turkey for 13 years-... well, now your advice could be ' throw yourself from a bridge' Ville_maddengurl Accents, American English, Lazy English

	MrPedantic  +  321422 Mon, 29 Jan 07 12:42 PM  Ville_maddengurl wrote: i want to give American accent up and learn English accent to talk more intelligible...is it OK now, MrP ..? I'm sorry, VM, you're going to have to speak much more slowly. In fragments.  Without verbs. And say "er" and "um" and "right?" a lot. And add quite a few expletives. Preferably in a glottal mumble, through your nose. Then British people will understand you... MrP MrPedantic Joined on Tue, Oct 12 2004 Veteran Member 13,616 ...opella forensis / adducit febris... Accents, Learn English, American English, Lazy English, British People, American Accents, Verbs, Glottals

	Ville_maddengurl  +  321427 Mon, 29 Jan 07 01:13 PM Thank you for your advices and helping me to fix my mistakes MrP...  MrPedantic wrote: And say "er" and "um" and "right?" a lot. And  'er' ,'um' ,stuff (i think i should not use stuff to be kind...)... Why are they important for British people? Thank you again... Ville_maddengurl American English, Lazy English, British People

	MrPedantic  +  321438 Mon, 29 Jan 07 01:31 PM Oh yes, use "and stuff" all the time. Use it for "etc.", or when you can't think of anything else to say, e.g. _____ ESL student: "So, how was your weekend, MrP?" MrP: "It was, um, ok." ESL student: "And did you do anything interesting? Did you go to a film, for instance, or read a book? Or visit some friends?" MrP: "Well, um, you know, er, not really. Just, um, watched tv and stuff." _____ "Um" and "er" and stuff are very important to BrE speakers. They allow us to make our sentences (and thus our conversations) much longer than they would otherwise be, without actually saying anything. ("Actually" is useful, too. Three syllables. Can't be bad. Fills many an awkward gap.) MrP MrPedantic Conversations, American English, Lazy English

	Ville_maddengurl  +  321446 Mon, 29 Jan 07 01:54 PM I got what you meant MrP ... When i make a conversation , i use them (um, er..etc)  involuntary. For example if we were talking face to face , i would say 'i use them ,umm,invotuntary.' . Because i would think to find a fit word... In my opinion , i  have not  found  that kind of expressions necessasy so far. I will use them frequently from now on. Thanks MrP In addition to i am happy that you paid attention to correct my mistakes ... Ville_maddengurl Conversations, American English, Lazy English

	Marvin A.  +  321505 Mon, 29 Jan 07 04:38 PM >> I got what you meant MrP ... When i make a conversation , i use them (um, er..etc) involuntary. For example if we were talking face to face , i would say 'i use them ,umm,invotuntary.' . Because i would think to find a fit word... In my opinion , i have not found that kind of expressions necessasy so far. I will use them frequently from now on. << I hope you know that he was being droll (at least I hope). I would ask that you not attempt to overuse such words. He was pointing out how unclear some English dialects can be. Marvin A. Joined on Fri, Dec 8 2006 Regular Member 638 Conversations, American English, Lazy English, Dialects

	Marvin A.  +  321507 Mon, 29 Jan 07 04:41 PM Of course if you do decide to go back to an American dialect, just put in the word "like" in all of your sentences, and add "dude" at the end. Marvin A. American English, Lazy English, Dialects