Is 'As such' used wrongly?

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Goodman  #444980  Thu, 22 Nov 07 12:19 AM

Hi Hoa,

You are pretty brave to dare this thread!Smile [:)]

The discussion about the “as such” usage, to me, was actually more of a reflection of how we interpret what a noun or noun phrase is, rather than grammatical correctness.  As I found on one of the site, it said:

 "As such" -as being what is indicated or suggested.  All I was doing was to confirm my interpreation and if there were others seeing it the same way. I am not saying right or wrong.

There is always this hidden bias that natives can communicate and write better than non-natives and therefore, in a debate situation, the non-native’s answer is likely deemed incorrect.  Generally, it may be true.  However, the reality is, even natives can’t seem to have a uniform answer or opinions to the same question in our everyday life sometimes. Not because they are wrong, it’s just because their answer is subject to personal interpretations and how they acquired their language skills.  Mike Tyson is a famous, or infamous American native, would anyone care to comment on his English correctness or perhaps like to learn English from him?  For the longest time, I had always thought “amongst” is a wrong word for “among” until I listen to Dr. Michael Savage's radio talk show who has two  Ph.D’s. The man’s fluidity and command of the language is absolutely magical, aside from his personal view on issues. But one has to admire his wit and quickness on the language. I don’t want to offend any natives here by what I said. Please do take this in the negative light. If I do, I sincerely apologize.

 

 

  
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Yoong Liat  #445005  Thu, 22 Nov 07 02:18 AM
 Goodman wrote:

Liat,

Just so that you know, my being a non-native has not diminished my language capacity, the ability to communicate nor to function professionally. Moreover, I never claimed that I was always right on discussions, as you pointed out. Believing in something I perceived as true doesn’t equal to insisting being right. You need to distinguish that.  I respect the comments and answers from Clive and CJ amount many others. Does it mean I don’t show my point of view?  Anyway, our scope of vision don’t cover the same distance and range comparatively. Interpret it anyway you like.  

Hi Goodman

I think your reply is the best and most sensible so far. You may differ, but if an expert tells you that your construction of a sentence is wrong, you should, in my opinion, consult native speaker friends of yours whose command of English is good on whether your thinking is correct instead of insisting in this forum that you're correct . You'll confuse learners whose English is weak. If your native speaker friends say that you are wrong, then you will have learned what the correct usage should be. However, if at least one of them tells you that you're correct, you will then realize that you're not wrong after all. In other words, your sentence is correct.

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