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Rita_malicia  #394841  Sat, 21 Jul 07 05:23 PM
because the Title of this Subject is that " Is it easy to be Muslim" you may find more debating issues in the Christian Subject in this forum of course and they may probably discuss the same subjects as in here.
  
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Jhumjhum  #394859  Sat, 21 Jul 07 06:00 PM
 Mythical Lady wrote:

One question I'd like to ask:

Who do you think is arousing all these questions ( about trivial things as you said) ? Is it Muslims? yes and specially their religious teachers because other people hardly bother about these trivial thingsTongue Tied [:S] Is it Muslims who prohibit wearing veils in schools as in France or planning to do so in public places as in UK? Is it Muslims who frequently claim a break of human rights merely because of not joining women in politics? and many trivial issues? I daresay that many trivial people arouse these trivial questions for indulging trivial Muslims in trivial defense and that's really what is happening, driving them away from many real problems. Many of these questions are concerned with tradition of the social life and  not Islam.  

Do we doubt the originality of our religion or the wisedom of its rules? to speak for me and millions of Muslims : Certainly No. The problem starts: first with interference, second with those who claim to be true Muslims, third with those whose interest is to add fuel to fire.

 Who is now obsessing with the idea of Islam or Muslims to the degree that we hear about the notion of Islamic-phobia??  

I see that I ask too many questions. Sorry.

My Regards,

Nobody wants to change their attitude .
Here who has opened the thread is a Muslim I think, otherwise we were not at all bothered about the matter whether their religion is it easy to follow or not.

  
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Rita_malicia  #394864  Sat, 21 Jul 07 06:36 PM

well Jhumjhum,

if you followed news about " Holy Blood Holy Grail" book u will know that it was also criticised by many people, because many of this book's information was  concidered as not credible or verifiable. and many churches considered the Book as an exasperation and outrage, Da vinci Code also was ctiticized by giving speculations and misrepresentations of core aspects of Christianity, The writer was accused by fabricating and distorting History and the basic truth about Christianity. However , you didnt mention the title of the books of " Taslima Nasrin" or "Salman Rushdie" and why do you think that live as fugitives. But in both cases the writers of the "DA VINCI CODE "and the "HOLY BLOOD HOLY GRAIL" are very different from TASLIMA NASRIN and SALMAN RUSHDIE, because the first writers didnt insult Christianity or wrote offending arguments , but they are accused of giving nonsence truth and information about christian history and belives. Wherease, the second writers wrote offending works about Islam and many verses were imaginated and created by non muslim people to draw their atheist view on islam, dont forget that those writers were not muslims but rather Atheist and their books was an Authobiography  talking about the bad idea they have about Islam .

you said that in news paper you found that " Islaam is under threat" i merely think that you only read the title. and let me tell you  that because  this religion lived 1500 years and that almost one third of population of the world belong to it and the rate of it's people is high makes it under threat, because people cant bear that a religion that came in the end could have a huge rate of fellows, that's why many of "anti-muslims" (let me use this word) are fighting against this religion and changing it's real image.

but what is a Mistery for me is that when women in christian churches have the right to waer their kind of veils, no one can talk and no one consider it as a trivial issue, but when Muslims women wear so  people accuse them of trivial acts, but  what i call trivials are those arguments who are draw by basic ignorance.

As far as iam concerned , if iam not convinced by something, i dont do it but i dont criticize it because it doenst matter for me. I have my own beliefs my own rules and iam satidfied with them, and i dont check cristian blocks in order to call them trivials.

If you are not happy with a religion dont follow it and if you wanna criticize it , just look first at the one which is closest to you, then you can compare, and also before comparing , try to know about what you talk, no oen oblige you to be Muslim or Christian or Jewsish, and for the same matter that no women is obliged to wear Veil, or mini skirt, or what ever....... and the proof is that many Muslims Girls are not wearing Hijab, it's a question of choice and no one has the right to criticize any one.

why people are blinded by their insignificant  issues and have the art to look at others with a Critical eye???!!!.

  
Mythical Lady  #394988  Sun, 22 Jul 07 02:42 AM

Hi there,

I am a little bit surprised when hearing someone is feeling insult because of the veil. I might at first find it acceptable. But when I repeat and repeat all over again that  it's not directed to insult or hurt your feeling, I am to be astonished. It's a commitment to what I believe in. So how could it hurt you when I am the one who is meant to? Believe me Dew, the veil is not a threat to other countries, it's not to bother you, or disturb your security. So no need to have all these worries and talks about it. All is wanted is to accept me as I am as well as I accept you as you are ( on one condition no offence is intended ) When you have your safety threatened ( which I doubt in the case of the veil) you completely have the right to set your rules the way you find them agreeable and safer. Here whoever is obliged to obey and live along yor rules or else they have to face the consequence.

Dear Jhumjhum: don't tackle issues you find them trivial and don't deserve your time to be spent on. I do the same when having a similiar feeling of disgust. 

  
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Dew 2007  #395024  Sun, 22 Jul 07 07:52 AM
 Mythical Lady wrote:

Believe me Dew, the veil is not a threat to other countries, it's not to bother you, or disturb your security. So no need to have all these worries and talks about it. All is wanted is to accept me as I am as well as I accept you as you are ( on one condition no offence is intended )

Dear Lady,

I think we have already settled the question about the veil in the other topic... And we agreed that you are free to wear it and it's not a humiliation.

Here we speak about different things:

My point is - that coming to the country people should respect the culture of the country they have come to and try to assimilate. Otherwise it is not only impolite but also insulting. And while  the visitors in the other country begin to demand the changing of cultural values of its people according to the ones of the guests - its a kind of expansion. No one should act so. You may wear whatever you want at home but in public places of the other culture you should respect the demands of the society.

  
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Tanit  #395076  Sun, 22 Jul 07 10:17 AM

Dear all,

Despite many differences between people and their beliefs, this thread shows how discussion can be open, respectful and polite.

I completely agree with Dew here:

My point is - that coming to the country people should respect the culture of the country they have come to and try to assimilate. Otherwise it is not only impolite but also insulting. And while  the visitors in the other country begin to demand the changing of cultural values of its people according to the ones of the guests - its a kind of expansion. No one should act so. You may wear whatever you want at home but in public places of the other culture you should respect the demands of the society.

His words made me think of this discussion we had a few months ago on a similar topic. Nothing to do with the easiness of being muslims, but with beliefs, customs and mutual respect.

Cheers. 

  
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Jhumjhum  #395776  Mon, 23 Jul 07 07:29 PM
 With all due respect to all
1) According to me a religion can lead the path of person's moral or spiritual life but I don't think it is necessary to force anybody choose any profession or dress or everyday life etc.

2) The books like Holy Blood and Da Vinci Code have created controversy but there writers are nor been punished neither were exiled and Christianity never felt threatened for their writtings but Rushdie or Taslima's life was in danger and they were exciled and took shelter in other countries,even when Rushdie got Nighthood there was a lot of protest against it.Why?

3) I am not at all bothered with the trivial things like these .I feel their are lot of serious problems like population growth,environmental polution ,poverty in many countries like Democratic Republic of Congo, Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gambia, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau etc ,women's oppression in many countries to be agitated for.I visit this forum not to tax my brain but to enjoy debating .

4)This kind of topics has become cliché  and end in vain because it is as childish as if I say my mother is very good and your mother is bad.


  
Dew 2007  #395802  Mon, 23 Jul 07 08:32 PM

Jhumjhum, I really agree with you, but as soon as this topic comes to the end, there will be another created by our muslim friends and they will start persuading us that Islam is peaceful (though noone questions that) and there is a war against Islam...

But remember what happened in Italy only a few days before (I mean the terrorists that had been trained in a Muslim church) and I begin to doubt some peaceful intensions of some Muslim people. And it again proves the point that Islam today has little to do with the REAL Islam. And again people will feel frightened about the militarist forces that are so strong in muslim countries.

How I wish all the muslims were like the ones I met here in the forum - friendly, openhearted, and civilized. So I will never blame ALL the muslims. But in such a situation I can understand that it is not at all easy to be a muslim.

  
Anonymous  #395914  Tue, 24 Jul 07 03:48 AM

“But in such a situation I can understand that it is not at all easy to be a muslim.”

 

I got your point, Dew. Sometimes I face that situation too, where people fight in the name of Islam and it makes Islam is bad at others’ eyes. I must say it’s really un-responsibility act. They’re labeled their name as Moslem and do something that Islam forbid them to do like hurt people, against weak people, and others.

 

But again I must say, for me… I just have to clear our mind. As I do right as being written in Quran, so I don’t have to worry about that. Many bad people take their action on Islam name, but still many more other Moslem that the real Moslem.

Just do my best as human being, as a Moslem, then let people see and got their point of view.

I don’t have a problem with that cause it will be just irritating me when I always think about what people will think of me.

  
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