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Jackson6612  #507547  Wed, 30 Apr 08 10:15 AM
How to pronounce ''D'Oyly'' in D'Oyly Carte?

Is it like d-oy-lee?
  
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Feebs11  #507573  Wed, 30 Apr 08 11:22 AM
 Yes - perfect pronunciation!
  
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Jackson6612  #507632  Wed, 30 Apr 08 12:35 PM
Thank you, Feebs.
  
CalifJim  #507866  Wed, 30 Apr 08 10:22 PM
The hyphens make it seem like it is being shown to have three syllables.  Yet d alone can't make a syllable, unless it's pronounced as when we say the name of the letter D.  Consequently, I still don't understand the answer.

So is it dee-oil-lee or doy-lee?  Three or two syllables?

CJ 

  
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Jackson6612  #507880  Wed, 30 Apr 08 11:08 PM

CalifJim
The hyphens make it seem like it is being shown to have three syllables.  Yet d alone can't make a syllable, unless it's pronounced as when we say the name of the letter D.  Consequently, I still don't understand the answer.

So is it dee-oil-lee or doy-lee?  Three or two syllables?

Yet d alone can't make a syllable
Why can't it make a syllable by itself?

...unless it's pronounced as when we say the name of the letter D
Of course, you will pronounce it as you pronounce the letter D. What other way is there to pronounce it otherwise?

In my suggested pronunciation I intended to use three syllables.

Best wishes, Jackson
  
CalifJim  #507965  Thu, 01 May 08 03:45 AM
Jackson6612
Yet d alone can't make a syllable
Why can't it make a syllable by itself?
It has no vowel.

Jackson6612
Of course, you will pronounce it as you pronounce the letter D. What other way is there to pronounce it otherwise?
The same way that I pronounce it when I say "dog" without the "og".  I don't say Dee-og.  I say dog.

 

Jackson6612
In my suggested pronunciation I intended to use three syllables.
Did Feebs know that?

CJ 

  
Jackson6612  #508134  Thu, 01 May 08 02:30 PM
Hi Jim,

Sorry, I forgot that a syllable has to contain at least one vowel.

You are also correct about the sound of the d. I referred to different pronunciation tables and all the tables had that the consonant d would be pronounced as in card or day. But I still have some confusion about this. These are the pronunciation rules which make it forbidden to pronounce the d as the letter d. But I wasn't following those rules when I presented the pronunciation for D'oyly. If you asked me how to pronounce sheep I would say she-p, p as the ending p in cheep or peep. I would not care about those tables. What do you say on this?

My intended pronunciation was dee-oil-lee with three syllables. Was I correct?

I don't think Feebs knew that.

Best wishes, Jackson
  
CalifJim  #508273  Thu, 01 May 08 10:32 PM
Jackson6612
My intended pronunciation was dee-oil-lee with three syllables. Was I correct?
I don't know.  That's why I, too, am waiting for Feebs to answer.  Smile

CJ 

  
Feebs11  #509590  Mon, 05 May 08 01:50 AM
 No - I had not picked up on that. 

Ignore the apostrophe in D'Oyly. It is pronounced as "doy - lee".

  
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