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Vincent Teo  #493626  Thu, 27 Mar 08 03:15 PM

Can I say,

(a) The city is nosier but the village is quiet.

(b) The city is nosier but the countryside / outskirt is lonely.

  
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Avangi  #493630  Thu, 27 Mar 08 03:37 PM

I don't think either one works.  In making this sort of a comparison I believe the adjectives should be parallel.  Noisier (check spelling) is a comparative.  Quiet and lonely are not.  Make them both one way or the other: The city is noisy, but the village is quiet.  The city is noisy but the outskirts are lonely.

You'll probably hear native speakers use the two comparatives in casual conversation, but I don't think they should be used formally:  The city is noisier but the village is quieter.

It would probably be correct to place the comparative in the second clause only: The city is noisy but the village is quieter / more quiet.

  
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RayH  #493632  Thu, 27 Mar 08 03:44 PM
I'm pretty sure you mean "noisy" here.


(a) The city is noisy nosier but the village is quiet.

In (b) I'm not sure you would ever juxtapose noisy/lonely but I suppose you could. "countryside", I think, is the only choice that fits here.
So, (b) The city is noisy nosier but the countryside is lonely.
  
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RayH  #493639  Thu, 27 Mar 08 03:58 PM

Avangi
The city is noisy but the outskirts are lonely.

Agreed, I should have thought of that.

Avangi
The city is noisy but the village is quieter / more quiet.

I don't think you will hear many native speakers saying "more quiet" in this context or in any context for that matter.

Although, sadly, I have been hearing far too many people using the "more X" construction where it's not really appropriate (instead of "Xer"). I would appreciate any comments on this from the grammar experts out there.
  
Marius Hancu  #493641  Thu, 27 Mar 08 04:14 PM
 The New York Times accepts both of them, but RayH is right:

66 from nytimes.com for "is more quiet"
9,200 from nytimes.com for "is quieter"

  
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