Jobb  +  49974 Tue, 12 Oct 04 06:19 AM No matter which definition, none of them is in conformity with the meaning of this special word. =============================================== Another sentence: The material will be fully used in the production of jewelry. Jobb Joined on Sun, Jul 11 2004 Regular Member 812

	Wai_Wai  +  49987 Tue, 12 Oct 04 07:42 AM Understable to me. Quite clear. You might wish to simplify the sentence, so readers can digest your meaning eaiser. Eg: - No matter which definition, none of them confirms with the meaning of this special word. - The material will be fully used to produce jewelry. Wai_Wai Joined on Mon, Sep 27 2004 Full Member 125 I am NOT a native English speaker. Correct me if I make any mistake. Any comment is perfectly welcome. One idea: I advocate acronyms used at a min because: - difficulty to...

	CalifJim  +  49989 Tue, 12 Oct 04 07:47 AM The first sentence is clear. A more idiomatic phrasing is None of the definitions corresponds with the meaning of this special word The second sentence is not so clear. It is the word fully that is problematic. Do you mean to say that the material will be used completely until there is no more material left? Or do you mean that the material will be used only in the production of jewelry and not in the production of anything else? a) The material will be completely used up in the production of jewelry. b) The material will be used only in / for the production of jewelry. CalifJim Joined on Mon, Aug 2 2004 California Veteran Member 22,452 "There are no facts, only interpretations" - Nietzsche

	qinge  +  49994 Tue, 12 Oct 04 07:55 AM THE FRIST SENTENCE IS NOT CLEAR. No matter which definition, none of them is in conformity with the meaning of this special word. DEFINITION ???????// NONE OF THEM ? THIS EXPRESS THAT I HAVE NEVER HEARD . IT IS WORNG THE SCEOND SENTENCE IS CLEAR qinge Joined on Mon, Oct 11 2004 CHINA New Member 14 liguoliang

	CalifJim  +  49997 Tue, 12 Oct 04 08:05 AM Please do not use all capitals in your posts. According to standard internet protocol, it means you are shouting at us. Thank you for your cooperation on this. CalifJim

	Wai_Wai  +  50014 Tue, 12 Oct 04 09:35 AM 1) The message from the sentence can get through to me although I can't really get 2) To me, "fully used" here means "use to its full extent". So the manufacturer will use every piece of the material to its full extent (without any waste!) to produce jewelry. Anyway, I think it is still the sentence itself is still clear. But since there's a lack of context, so some other meanings may arise based on different interpretation Wai_Wai

	MrPedantic  +  50277 Wed, 13 Oct 04 06:38 PM Hello Jobb The clause [no matter which + noun] really requires its own verb here. Thus you might write: 'No matter which definition is used, none of them is in conformity with the meaning of this special word.' Though there is an element of tautology in the sentence. MrP MrPedantic Joined on Tue, Oct 12 2004 Veteran Member 12,592 ...opella forensis / adducit febris... Verbs, Clauses, Nouns