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Vincent Ding

#109460 Thu, 16 Jun 05 11:57 AM

I saw someone wrote in his report: Smoke was seen issuing from cargo hold No. 3 of the vessel at app. 17:00 hours. (a cargo hold is a separated space under the deck of a vessel)

isn't it more appropriate here to say "releasing" than "issuing"?

Vincent Ding

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rvw

#109498 Thu, 16 Jun 05 01:51 PM

No, "release" is used only as a transitive verb -- it must have a direct object. You could reword the sentence: Cargo hold No.3 was seen releasing smoke....

"Issue" has transitive and intransitive definitions. The following intransitive definition is from Webster's Third New International Dictionary:

issue: to proceed or come forth from a usu. specified source by or as if by flowing out or emanating or emerging from it.

In this context, "release" and "issue" have close definitions, but only "issue" can be used intransitively.

rvw

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pieanne

#109548 Thu, 16 Jun 05 03:38 PM

Hello, both of you,
Maybe "leaking from" would be more appropriate? or "oozing"? or "emanating"?

pieanne

Joined on Thu, Jan 20 2005

South of France ...But I'm Belgian!

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I'm glad to help, but I'm not a native! And please excuse my typos...

Chaoss

#109607 Thu, 16 Jun 05 05:30 PM

Pianne, maybe I am incorrect, but don`t you think that smoke can`t be leaking from something, `cause it`s smoke and not fluid...?

Chaoss

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pieanne

#109609 Thu, 16 Jun 05 05:35 PM

I know that, Chaoss, but sometimes the way smoke escapes from something can be compared to fluid.
Let's wait for a native, shall we? Smile [:)]

pieanne

Chaoss

#109625 Thu, 16 Jun 05 06:03 PM

Sorry for my beginner`s stupidity in the issue of studying EFL.

Let's wait for a native, shall we? - What does the sentence mean?

Chaoss

goldmund

#109771 Fri, 17 Jun 05 12:34 AM

Dear Vincent Ding,

It is normal to say «issue» here. «To issue» is «to come out of».

Have a nice evening,
Goldmund

goldmund

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Chaoss

#109956 Fri, 17 Jun 05 02:36 PM

Let`s wait for a native! I did it! Sometimes decontextualized expression seems not quite clear to understand. Especially when you are f...ng tired after your work. But reading Pianne your motto, I get it.

Chaoss

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pieanne

#109981 Fri, 17 Jun 05 03:46 PM

Sorry, Chaoss, I hadn't noticed your question before.
"Let's wait for a native, shall we?"
means:
"let's wait until a native English speaker sees the post and gives her/his opinion, OK?"

pieanne

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