Cadzao  +  399996 Fri, 03 Aug 07 01:36 PM "It appears that man is willing to learn about himself only after some disaster; after war, economic crisis, and political upheaval have taught him how flimsy is that human world in which he thought himself so securely grounded. What he learns has always been there, lying concealed beneath the surface of even the best-functioning societies; it is no less true for having come out of a period of chaos and disaster. But so long as man does not have to face up to such a truth, he will not do so. " (Irrational Man, William Barrett) http://www.philosophymagazine.com/others/MO_Barrett_Irrational.html Could you please rephrase the blue sentence? Thank you Cadzao Cadzao Joined on Wed, Sep 6 2006 Full Member 305

	Feebs11  +  400004 Fri, 03 Aug 07 02:18 PM It is still true even though it has become evident only after some kind of disaster, whether manmade or artificial Feebs11 Joined on Thu, Nov 23 2006 UK Veteran Member 5,015