I'v said it years ago.

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Teo

#152880 Sat, 29 Oct 05 07:06 PM

1. I'v said it years ago.

2. They asked me about something I've said years ago.

Are the two sentences acceptable?

Thank you very much for your reply.

Teo

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Thank you very much for your reply.

Clive

#152885 Sat, 29 Oct 05 07:21 PM

Hi,

1. I'v said it years ago.

2. They asked me about something I've said years ago.

Are the two sentences acceptable?

No. I'd say I said it years ago.

Best wishes, Clive

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MaXmOuSe

#152892 Sat, 29 Oct 05 07:37 PM

That's right because this action is already completed and we use present perfect for action which has started in the past and is still in progress

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Teo

#200356 Fri, 24 Feb 06 03:00 AM

Grammars usually say that the present perfect tenses cannot be used together with expressions pf finished time - we can say I have seen him or I saw him yesterday, but not I have seen him yesterday. In fact, such structure are unusual but not impossible (though learners should avoid them). Here are some real examples taken from news broadcasts, newspaper articles, advertisements, letters and conversations.

France has detonated a Hiroshima-sized nuclear bomb on Mururoa Atoll in the South Pacific at 17.02 GMT on Wednesday.

Police have arrested more than 900 suspected drugs traffickers in raids throughout the country on Friday and Saturday.

...a runner who's beaten Linford Christie earlier this year.

A 24-year-old soldier has been killed in a road accident while on patrol last night.

Teo

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rishonly

#200365 Fri, 24 Feb 06 03:47 AM

Teo wrote:

Grammars usually say that the present perfect tenses cannot be used together with expressions pf finished time - we can say I have seen him or I saw him yesterday, but not I have seen him yesterday. In fact, such structure are unusual but not impossible (though learners should avoid them). Here are some real examples taken from news broadcasts, newspaper articles, advertisements, letters and conversations.

France has detonated a Hiroshima-sized nuclear bomb on Mururoa Atoll in the South Pacific at 17.02 GMT on Wednesday.

Police have arrested more than 900 suspected drugs traffickers in raids throughout the country on Friday and Saturday.

...a runner who's beaten Linford Christie earlier this year.

A 24-year-old soldier has been killed in a road accident while on patrol last night.

In my opinion, it is common that news broadcasts, advertisements, letters and conversations may not necessaily follow formal English rules at all times.

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CalifJim

#200377 Fri, 24 Feb 06 04:58 AM

For what it's worth, all four examples sound wrong to me!
CJ

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Wampum

#200739 Sat, 25 Feb 06 11:30 AM

Native speakers studiously avoid using the present perfect with adjuncts denoting past time because one of the main purposes of the present perfect is to highlight a past action, to make a past action seem important. That's why it is seldom done.

But it is not a complete impossibility. It does happen.

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MrPedantic

#200752 Sat, 25 Feb 06 01:24 PM

Teo wrote:

Grammars usually say that the present perfect tenses cannot be used together with expressions pf finished time - we can say I have seen him or I saw him yesterday, but not I have seen him yesterday. In fact, such structure are unusual but not impossible (though learners should avoid them). Here are some real examples taken from news broadcasts, newspaper articles, advertisements, letters and conversations.

France has detonated a Hiroshima-sized nuclear bomb on Mururoa Atoll in the South Pacific at 17.02 GMT on Wednesday.

Police have arrested more than 900 suspected drugs traffickers in raids throughout the country on Friday and Saturday.

...a runner who's beaten Linford Christie earlier this year.

A 24-year-old soldier has been killed in a road accident while on patrol last night.