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Magic-dragon  +  433067 Sun, 21 Oct 07 04:25 PM

I'd be happy if someone would answer my questions. Thanks in advance.

Q 1  Are the following 3 sentences grammatically right and the same in meaning?

A:  I've been here since 7 o'clock.

B:  I've been here from 7 o'clock on.

C:  I've been here from 7 o'clock.

Q 2  Are the following 3 sentences grammatically right and the same in meaning?

D:  I've been here since I came back.
    
E:  I've been here from the time I came back.

F:  I've been here from when I came back.

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Doll  +  433097 Sun, 21 Oct 07 05:46 PM

A:  I've been here since 7 o'clock.

B:  I've been here from 7 o'clock on.

C:  I've been here from 7 o'clock.   A is the only correct answer. You cannot say I have been here from this time.    

D:  I've been here since I came back.
    
E:  I've been here from the time I came back.

F:  I've been here from when I came back.  D is correct here. The others are not grammatical and besides since means from a particular time.


 

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Clive  +  433262 Mon, 22 Oct 07 05:22 AM

Hi Doll,

Why are you so sure these other examples are wrong?

For example if, as you say, 'since' means 'from a particular time',  you wouldn't accept 'from 7 o'clock'? Isn't 7 o'clock a particular time?

Best wishes, Clive

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Magic-dragon  +  433282 Mon, 22 Oct 07 07:15 AM
 Clive wrote:

Hi Doll,

Why are you so sure these other examples are wrong?

For example if, as you say, 'since' means 'from a particular time',  you wouldn't accept 'from 7 o'clock'? Isn't 7 o'clock a particular time?

Best wishes, Clive

--- Hi, Clive. I'm an original poster, Magic dragon.

    Do you mean all samples are correct?

Neeraj Jain, 2 yr 34 days ago

Hi,

In Q.1, (b) is not correct.

In Q.2, (c) is not correct.

Ant_222  +  433452 Mon, 22 Oct 07 04:31 PM
Neeraj Jain: «In Q.2, (c) is not correct.»

The indexation is transparent. Did you mean Q.2 (f)?
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Goodman  +  433476 Mon, 22 Oct 07 05:45 PM
 Magic-dragon wrote:

I'd be happy if someone would answer my questions. Thanks in advance.

Q 1  Are the following 3 sentences grammatically right and the same in meaning?

A:  I've been here since 7 o'clock.

B:  I've been here from 7 o'clock on.

C:  I've been here from 7 o'clock.

Q 2  Are the following 3 sentences grammatically right and the same in meaning?

D:  I've been here since I came back.
    
E:  I've been here from the time I came back.

F:  I've been here from when I came back.

Magic-dragon,

Grammatically and idiomatically speaking, only A and D are the correct answers. Based on your sentences, "since" is correct choice, although "from" is possible for Q-E. but less preferred in my opinion. i.e. I have been working here since I came back from England vs.  I have been working here from the date I came back from England...

A:  I've been here since 7 o'clock.

B:  I've been here from 7 o'clock on.

C:  I've been here from 7 o'clock.

Q 2  Are the following 3 sentences grammatically right and the same in meaning?

D:  I've been here since I came back.
    
E:  I've been here from the time I came back.- Possible

F:  I've been here from when I came back.

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Doll  +  433590 Mon, 22 Oct 07 10:32 PM
 Clive wrote:

Hi Doll,

Why are you so sure these other examples are wrong?

  

Yes, I was really so sure that they are strictly not grammatical but tonight I asked them to one of the grammar instructors in my university and learned the correct choices. From the time gives the sense of particularity too but it really sounded incorrect to my non-native ears. Why didn't I add that this is my try or thought but talked so sure? Generally I avoid stating certain things not to mislead anyone as well as myself. God! I only know standart English even for some cases I don't know it. I have to eat loaves of bread, yes yes. ( A Turkish idiom)

MrPedantic  +  433639 Tue, 23 Oct 07 12:39 AM

I must admit, to me, all the sentences look ok:

A:  I've been here since 7 o'clock.

B:  I've been here from 7 o'clock on.

C:  I've been here from 7 o'clock.

D:  I've been here since I came back.
    
E:  I've been here from the time I came back.

F:  I've been here from when I came back.

For me, #A looks back to 7 o/c from "now", while #C looks forward to "now" from 7 o/c (i.e. the difference is one of perspective). #B emphasises the "looking forward from 7 o/c".

Similarly for #D ("since") and #E/#F ("from").

(Other speakers might well have a different interpretation, though.)

MrP

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