Anonymous  +  196344 Mon, 13 Feb 06 04:14 PM Hello, The topic is the question. What's correct? e.g. "I've got to do something" or "I've gotten to do something"? According to my (computerized) dictionary, the past participle of 'get' is 'gotten', so why do I hear so many people say "I've got"? Best Regards, Itay Anonymous Regards

	milky  +  196403 Mon, 13 Feb 06 06:47 PM  Anonymous wrote: Hello, The topic is the question. What's correct? e.g. "I've got to do something" or "I've gotten to do something"? According to my (computerized) dictionary, the past participle of 'get' is 'gotten', so why do I hear so many people say "I've got"? Best Regards, Itay In British English: "I've got to do something" = it is imperative that I take action or experience something (action not yet done) In American English:  "I've gotten to do something"? = I have had the pleasure, chance, possibilty to do or experience something. (action done) milky Joined on Thu, Jan 15 2004 Senior Member 3,149 Hume said that if we had perfect or complete descriptive knowledge of reality, we could not, by reasoning, derive a single valid "ought". Regards, American English, British English

	Itay  +  196810 Tue, 14 Feb 06 08:02 PM I see... So, for example, is "I've never got a pay raise" grammatically correct? Or should it rather be "I've never gotten a pay raise"? The way I get it now, "I've gotten" is present perfect while "I've got" isn't. Am I right? So what is "I've got"? Itay Itay Joined on Mon, Feb 13 2006 New Member 01 Present Perfect

	milky  +  196865 Tue, 14 Feb 06 11:36 PM  Itay wrote: I see... So, for example, is "I've never got a pay raise" grammatically correct? Or should it rather be "I've never gotten a pay raise"? The way I get it now, "I've gotten" is present perfect while "I've got" isn't. Am I right? So what is "I've got"? Itay "I've never + past participle" is the present perfect there. It can be followed by "got" or "gotten" What you need to do is look for the meaning of the verb each time Bothe "got" and "gotten" have quite a few meanings. Take a look for them in a good dictionary. Then you could read this: http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/got.html or this: milky Verbs, Present Perfect

	Grammar Geek  +  962013 Thu, 05 Nov 09 02:42 AM Hi Anon, The original post was from 2006. Probably that person is no longer around to hear your suggestions.   Grammar Geek Joined on Tue, Jan 10 2006 Veteran Member 19,652 Barbara, who answers in American English. My housekeeping skills attest to the truth of the second law of thermodynamics: Left to themselves, things get more and more random!

	Yankee  +  962032 Thu, 05 Nov 09 03:04 AM Anonymous “i've got to do something or i've got a sore throat... these are examples of bad grammar slipping into american slang.” Sorry, Anon, but the expression "have got to do something" (meaning "must do something") is quite standard and accepted. "Have got" meaning "have" (in the sense of "possess") is also accepted. If you don't believe me, just take a look at some reputable dictionaries, for example. You'll find that none of them consider these expressions to be slang -- or even particularly informal, for that matter. Look at the usage note and also definition 63 (have got to) here, for example: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/have+got?r=66 Speaking of bad language habits, you might want to consider taking a critical look at the complete lack of capitalization in your post.  Yankee Joined on Sat, Apr 15 2006 Connecticut, USA Veteran Member 6,494 Amy "You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus." - Mark Twain Capital Letters, Writing, References, Business, Career, United States, Usages, Speaking, Chat, American, Friendships, Apologies, Expressions