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Kooyeen  #383843  Sun, 24 Jun 07 07:16 PM
Hi,
how should I pronounce sounds like:
university
unit
unite
Europe

I never know when they should be /jʊ/ (final part as in "book") and when /ju/ (final part as in "boot"). Merriam-Webster says "university" and "unit" are with /ju/, and "Europe" and "unite" are with /jʊ/... But other dictionarys show different pronunciations, so I guess it's another of those things I'll have to say at random.
Thanks Smile [:)]

  
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Buddhaheart  #384282  Tue, 26 Jun 07 01:57 AM

I think we pronounce the ‘u’ in your word list all as /ju+/ in this neck of the wood. I notice the difference you mentioned in the M-WD. Except the word ‘Europe’, Well’s LPD and Jones’ EPD do list all other words as /ju+/.

  
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Eimai_Anglos  #384535  Tue, 26 Jun 07 07:28 PM
In the UK it's pronounced like "you".
  
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CalifJim  #385101  Wed, 27 Jun 07 09:48 PM
This is all easily explained.  It's certainly not random!

It's a full /ju/ when it takes primary or even secondary stress. (unit, university, uvula, unify).

It can't be a full /ju/ if it's unstressed or colored by a following R sound.  Reduce the vowel (almost) to 'oo' in 'book'. (unite, Europe, ubiquitous, urinate, unanimous, Uralic)  [You may find that the 'reduction' is greater when R follows than when it's only a matter of an unstressed syllable.]

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Kooyeen  #385510  Thu, 28 Jun 07 10:47 PM
Ahhh, yes, I actually thought about that, but I got confused, because the stress in "university" is not at the beginning. But now I realize there's a secondary stress...

Thank you.

But I'd like to know another thing: would it sound odd if I pronounced them all with the reduced vowel, as in "Europe"? I think I tend to reduce the sound regardless of the kind of word. Smile [:)]

  
CalifJim  #386066  Sat, 30 Jun 07 03:51 AM
would it sound odd if I pronounced them all with the reduced vowel, as in "Europe"?
Yes.
You can get away with it only for those with the R.  "unify" pronounced with the 'oo' of "book" is not going to sound good at all.

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Kooyeen  #386261  Sat, 30 Jun 07 02:50 PM
Ok, thank you Smile [:)]

  
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