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MrPedantic  +  119933 Wed, 20 Jul 05 11:48 PM
 Cairn wrote:

a) I burnt my finger on the stove.

b) I burned my finger on the stove.

It feel that a) is momentary and b) almost hurts. (it might be personal, though)

I'm with you on this one, Cairn.

"The candle burned all night."

"I've burnt the cakes again."

MrP

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Tallulah Tam  +  119937 Thu, 21 Jul 05 12:16 AM

I am really enjoying this......I am actually getting my opinion asked!  Wink [;)]

 Thank you all for your replies. 

 Perhaps I have been in America too long but I like (a) best. "I have burned the cakes again" is what I would write.

 But I KNOW I would say :-

***!@# I've burnt the %$*** cakes again!!!

Mr P. you have given me some homework.  I have blown the cobwebs off  Doctor Faustus.

Gosh! It's long time ago! "O" level English.

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cairn  +  119938 Thu, 21 Jul 05 12:16 AM

I've been wondering if the rule works with any of the other "t/ed" irregular verbs - I will come back here..

Sorry about the typo in my previous post, it should have been I feel.

And sorry about your cakes MrP.

cairn

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MrPedantic  +  119940 Thu, 21 Jul 05 12:36 AM

That's kind of you, Cairn. I'm getting over it...

Other pairs: 'learned/learnt' seems possible –

"I learned Lithuanian at primary school."

"Well, I've learnt something new today."

MrP

 

MrPedantic  +  119941 Thu, 21 Jul 05 12:38 AM
 Tallulah Tam wrote:

I have blown the cobwebs off  Doctor Faustus.

You're lucky...still plenty of Wednesday left.

Unfortunately the equi noctis are running insufficiently lente at this end...

MrP

cairn  +  119942 Thu, 21 Jul 05 12:43 AM

MrP.,

as regards the quoted forms from Marlowe and Milton, they must be remnants of the Old English weak verb conjugation. At that time the endings were

-ed(e, -d(e or -t(e

they originated from the three (major) different groups of weak verbs and, in fact, throughout the whole history of the English language they tended to be confused (like the ablaut series of the seven classes of strong verbs).

cairn

LanguageLover  +  120103 Thu, 21 Jul 05 03:16 PM

I'm sorry to interrupt, but MrP mentioned that you had a nice screen name, Tallulah. Does it have any specific meaning or implication to something, because I've been trying to relate it to something as soon as I read your first post!

I googled it before posting this. As you know, though this is new information to me, it was the name of the famous actress Tallulah Bankhead, and the name of a location somewhere in Louisiana. Have I missed something?

Thanks,

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Tallulah Tam  +  120112 Thu, 21 Jul 05 04:09 PM

So sorry to hear of the recent spate of bombs in London, people. 

We are rooting for you over here.

NIL ILLIGITIMI CARBORUNDUM EST.

Tallulah Tam  +  120353 Fri, 22 Jul 05 03:12 PM

There is no mystery to my name LanguageLover. (I would there were)  My grandmother was American and a friend and admirer of Tallulah Bankhead, so I ended up with the name.  I could not pronounce it as a child so I have always been called Lulah.

Much as I like the forum and am thrilled to find it, I am finding it quite difficult to negotiate. It seems to be a very lively forum with lots of hits from all over the world. I would really like to be able to partake in discussions without the frustrations.  I still cannot understand why this thread does not show up under the original heading. (The main original folder). Unfortunately I am unable to give you the exact title as this whole message will disappear if I reference back to it.  There is a list of subjects on the Home Page which I believe, (but cannot be sure without going back to look) takes you to a list of subtitles, this thread was posted in one of them, but when I click on that it does not show up.  If I am writing a message and use the back button for a reference, my message disappears.  It also seems impossible to open a second window while still retaining the message window.  Yesterday I tried to add a message to a thread but there was no "reply" or "post" button.  I ended up putting the message under "report" since that was the only button available, I have no idea where it ended up, it did not show up on the board!

 Sorry for the whine..........  I'm afraid I need a little hand-holding please. Huh? [:^)]

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