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Cool Breeze  +  541530 Mon, 14 Jul 08 09:47 PM
MrPedantic



I think it would be truer to say that BrE uses either, as Yoong Liat says; except where the participle is used adjectivally (e.g. "burnt toast", "burnt finger").

 

Hmm... Hmm Do you also say "a learnt man"?

CB

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MrPedantic  +  542051 Tue, 15 Jul 08 09:57 PM

Oddly enough, no! But then, you don't say "learned" either – it has to be "a learnèd man".

All the best,

MrP

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Yoong Liat, 1 yr 133 days ago

MrPedantic
“it has to be "a learnèd man".”

a learned professor (Times-Chambers Junior Dictionary)

 

Cool Breeze  +  542254 Wed, 16 Jul 08 08:16 AM
Yoong Liat

MrPedantic
“it has to be "a learnèd man".”

a learned professor (Times-Chambers Junior Dictionary)

 

 

YL, MrP is referring to the pronunciation [lə:nɪd].

Yes, MrP, I knew that. However, at least according to dictionaries some similar words can be pronounced  in two ways. Long-legged is one example: [legd / legɪd]. I have only heard the latter pronunciation, though. I wonder if the first alternative is actually used at all even though it is given in dictionaries?

Cheers, CB

Yoong Liat  +  542411 Wed, 16 Jul 08 03:29 PM

Thanks, CB.

If you hadn't told me,I wouldn't have known that Mr P was referring to pronunciation.

MrPedantic  +  542612 Wed, 16 Jul 08 11:04 PM

Yoong Liat
“If you hadn't told me,I wouldn't have known that Mr P was referring to pronunciation”

Sorry, YL, I should have said.

Cool Breeze

However, at least according to dictionaries some similar words can be pronounced  in two ways. Long-legged is one example: [legd / legɪd]. I have only heard the latter pronunciation, though. I wonder if the first alternative is actually used at all even though it is given in dictionaries?”

That's an interesting one. For the long-legged myotis, I would naturally say "leggd"; though they may say it differently in the US. For Dylan Thomas's "long-legged bait", and Yeats's "long-legged fly", on the other hand, I would say "-leggèd":

That civilisation may not sink,
Its great battle lost,
Quiet the dog, tether the pony
To a distant post;
Our master Caesar is in the tent
Where the maps are spread,
His eyes fixed upon nothing,
A hand upon his head.
Like a long-legged fly upon the stream
His mind moves upon silence.

Going back to your previous comment: I note that "a learnt trait" is much less popular than "a learned trait".

All  the best,

MrP

Anonymous, 1 yr 107 days ago
Actually you will find that learnt is not from a lazy spoken word, it is the original British English way to say the word. However more and more US English is creeping into the English (British) language. Oxford English Dictionary was checked for this.
Anonymous, 360 days ago
and yet when Americans speak, they pronounce the "t"s as "d"s
Anonymous, 319 days ago
Oh my, an American speaking of lazyness regarding the written word, whatever next?
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