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Mythical Lady
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Mon, 31 Jul 06 06:05 PM
That should be an awesome peace which comes out of wars.
I am so speechless about these acts taking place against Lebanon by Iseral and its supporter America. When I was a child, I used to think if America likes Iseral to that great extent why don't they give them one of thier so many states and become thier neighbour instead of living along aside with people who clearly detest and hate their being there?? My father used to laugh at this thought saying my daughter I wish the world has the logic of a child so that we can live in peace.
P.S one thing I always pray for that Olmert face the same fate of Sharon who previously hit Qana. I wish this happens sooner. Ameen.
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What lies behind us and what lies before us are TINY matters compared to what lies WITHIN us
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Ruslana
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Mon, 31 Jul 06 08:18 PM
Anonymous wrote: | | Anyhow, I am taking notice one thing, it seems to me that, the only people is the people of Islamic world who have sentiments and able to feel the pain of those who are suffering. |
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For some reason I recollect Muslims' reaction on 09/11, when plenty of them, including women and children, were just yelling in the streets of Great Britain showing their gladness because of that event.
Feathers wrote: | | IMMHO, Ruslana -- that war has only made Japan one of the most obedient states of the US. |
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The USA's total foreign debt is about 8 trillion dollars and increasing every year (for comparison: in 1998 it was about 2 trillions). Japan is one of the USA's main creditors. The economy of the two countries is pretty bound up in each other, so I think the USA depends on Japan as much as Japan depends on the USA. And neither of the countries would start a war against the other: it is disadvantageous for both the sides. So, aren't involved in one another economies a good base for stopping wars?
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Anonymous,
3 yr 117 days ago
Anonymous wrote: | Ruslana wrote: | Jan, I didn't say that peace might be set forever. Humans' characteristic is to forget most lessons of history. And so wars happen again and again. War - peace - war - peace - etc. A war may be useful if its lesson is learnt. IMHO, if Japan hadn't had Hiroshima and Nagasaki, it wouldn't have become such a country of high technologies as it is now. The war discouraged them for a long time from fighting but made develop their country.
Every cloud has a silver lining.
But do you know what is the most interesting? History shows that wars are useless, but as long as humans don't want to understand it, they are fated to pass through wars again and again, till they learn this lesson. A stupid circle, isn't it?
Hope I haven't puzzled you with my point of view. If yes, here it is in other words: a war may be useful only when its lesson is learnt, and the lesson of wars is that wars are useless. |
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You used the word "War" eight times. Do you know what have you done, you have attacked eight times at my heart. Anyhow, I am taking notice one thing, it seems to me that, the only people is the people of Islamic world who have sentiments and able to feel the pain of those who are suffering. The remaing world is trying to pretend "it's a war" and as in war both are equal and it is being said by proving some historical statements, anyhow, what can be come from dead hearts nothing more than such statements.
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Yes we know that we are doing nothing but watching TV, because there aren't any vested interests we have to protect.

Anonymous,
3 yr 117 days ago
Anonymous wrote: |
You used the word "War" eight times. Do you know what have you done, you have attacked eight times at my heart. Anyhow,
I am taking notice one thing, it seems to me that, the only people is
the people of Islamic world who have sentiments and able to feel the
pain of those who are suffering. The remaing world is trying to pretend
"it's a war" and as in war both are equal and it is being said by
proving some historical statements, anyhow, what can be come from dead
hearts nothing more than such statements.
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Don't worry, Anon., there are many non-Muslims who also feel the pain,
and are disgusted by the behaviour of many of our 'leaders', on both
sides. But these 'leaders' don't represent the common man. They dictate
to him. We have all been tricked into thinking this is a war of
religion. It is not. It is another war to tighten the noose of
totalitarian world control. There are spiritual matters involved, but
they are far from the religions most of us are familiar with. We need to understand the way religions are
pitted against one another and see that we all lose, while the munitions manufacturers and the One World Fascist Globalists laugh at our misery - and slowly squeeze the life out of us. Any
country that does not subscribe to One World Fascist Globalism will be demonised and
attacked, sooner or later.
The REAL enemy does not pray to Allah or God. He prays to, and is, a different beast altogether. Know your enemy.

Anonymous,
3 yr 117 days ago
Anonymous wrote: | Anonymous wrote: |
You used the word "War" eight times. Do you know what have you done, you have attacked eight times at my heart. Anyhow,
I am taking notice one thing, it seems to me that, the only people is
the people of Islamic world who have sentiments and able to feel the
pain of those who are suffering. The remaing world is trying to pretend
"it's a war" and as in war both are equal and it is being said by
proving some historical statements, anyhow, what can be come from dead
hearts nothing more than such statements.
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Don't worry, Anon., there are many non-Muslims who also feel the pain,
and are disgusted by the behaviour of many of our 'leaders', on both
sides. But these 'leaders' don't represent the common man. They dictate
to him.
We have all been tricked into thinking this is a war of
religion. It is not. It is another war to tighten the noose of
totalitarian world control. There are spiritual matters involved, but
they are far from the religions most of us are familiar with.
We need to understand the way religions are
pitted against one another and see that we all lose, while the munitions manufacturers and the One World Fascist Globalists laugh at our misery - and slowly squeeze the life out of us. Any
country that does not subscribe to One World Fascist Globalism will be demonised and
attacked, sooner or later.
The REAL enemy does not pray to Allah or God. He prays to, and is, a different beast altogether. Know your enemy.
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You are absoloutly right, thanks
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Janissary
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Wed, 02 Aug 06 03:25 PM
Ruslana wrote: | For some reason I recollect Muslims' reaction on 09/11, when plenty of them, including women and children, were just yelling in the streets of Great Britain showing their gladness because of that event. |
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Why do you recollect such a nonsensical action,which infact has nothing to do with Islam´s understanding,whereas you are completely unaware of the prays in Mosques which were taken place after that vicious terrorist action(for a long time i am approaching to terrorism in a different way. yes it was really a terrorist action.but the question is who is terrorist) for the people who died in 9/11? I hope you get my point Ruslana. Ruslana wrote: | | a war may be useful only when its lesson is
learnt, and the lesson of wars is that wars are useless. |
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I understand you Ruslana though I hope you know it is of no use.
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Ruslana
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Sun, 06 Aug 06 12:13 PM
I recollected such a "nonsensical action" just to reply to seeming that "the only people is the people of Islamic world who have sentiments and able to feel the pain of those who are suffering".
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Janissary
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Sun, 06 Aug 06 11:24 PM
It wasnt ,actually, a question Ruslana. I just used the question mark as a way to compare what is recollected and what is not.In other words,what is known and what is unknown. That is to say, what is supposed to be known and what is supposd to be unknown ![Smile [:)]](/emoticons/emotion-1.gif)
Regards
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