paco2004  +  224069 Tue, 09 May 06 10:46 PM Hello guys I'm in trouble with a sentence in Washington Post's article "A Passage to Harvard". The sentence is : "Life that is, in this case, more engaging, more nuanced and ultimately more disturbing than art." How should I interpret this "life that is"?  Is the "that" a relative? Or should I interpret the phrase is made by fronting "life" in "that is life"? I would to like hear your opinions. paco paco2004 Joined on Wed, Nov 17 2004 Senior Member 4,095 In Japan today even dogs are learning how to bow-wow in English. Articles

	paco2004  +  224074 Wed, 10 May 06 12:04 AM  Marius Hancu wrote: Life which is more engaging, more nuanced, etc Hi, Marius Thanks for the quick reply. Do you mean this sentence is made up of only a single noun modified by a clause? paco paco2004 Clauses, Nouns

	MrPedantic  +  224081 Wed, 10 May 06 12:34 AM ...weeping inconsolably and trying to look at life ahead. Life that is, in this case, more engaging, more nuanced and ultimately more disturbing than art. And Viswanathan, perhaps, has learned a lesson that the admissions industrial complex does its best to obscure: There are more things to cry about than not getting into Harvard. I would read "Life" as a restatement of the preceding "life", and "that" as a defining relative pronoun: "...weeping inconsolably and trying to look at life ahead – life that is more engaging, more nuanced and ultimately more disturbing than art, in this case." MrP MrPedantic Joined on Tue, Oct 12 2004 Veteran Member 12,592 ...opella forensis / adducit febris... Nouns, Pronouns, Relative Pronouns

	paco2004  +  224087 Wed, 10 May 06 01:26 AM  MrPedantic wrote: I would read "Life" as a restatement of the preceding "life", and "that" as a defining relative pronoun: "...weeping inconsolably and trying to look at life ahead – life that is more engaging, more nuanced and ultimately more disturbing than art, in this case." Hello　MrP Thank you for the opinion. So I feel the writing style here is of abnormally elaborate rhetoric. Am I right? paco paco2004 Nouns, Pronouns, Relative Pronouns, Writing Styles

	MrPedantic  +  224090 Wed, 10 May 06 01:42 AM Well, it does seem to be a fairly common trick, in some kinds of journalism: putting your relative pronoun in one paragraph, and its referent in another. MrP MrPedantic Nouns, Pronouns, Relative Pronouns, Paragraphs

	paco2004  +  224092 Wed, 10 May 06 01:46 AM  MrPedantic wrote: Well, it does seem to be a fairly common trick, in some kinds of journalism: putting your relative pronoun in one paragraph, and its referent in another. MrP Thank you, again!  I see. paco  paco2004 Nouns, Pronouns, Relative Pronouns, Paragraphs