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Not considering the nationality of the teacher, what is recognized more, an MA in ESL from a good university, or an English certificate from a reputable institute? Someone I know already has an MA in ESL but is still being asked to take either a CELTA or TESOL.
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I would highly recommend visiting the [url="http://eslcafe.com/discussion/dz1 /"]Teacher Training Forum[/url] on Dave's ESL Cafe. This is an ongoing debate there. The following issues have been raised of late:

1) Goals: Do you want to teach at a university or do you want to be a DOS?
2) Content: Does the Master's program include a practical component (practice teaching)?
3) Format: Distance Master's degrees are not accepted for some positions in some countries.
4) Geography: DELTA seems to have more recognition in Europe and the Middle East than in North America, Asia, etc., at least as far as college/university teaching positions go.
5) Employer: Schools which offer CELTA/DELTA training may prefer to hire DELTAs to Master's holders.

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I come to understand that CELTA is more worldly recognized coz it is a teacher assessment program. So in CELTA you are going to be assessed as a qualified English Teacher & that is very tough especially if you are not a native speaker. As a beginner in this field, you might want to consider TESOL/ TESL first.

MA in ESL is different, it's more academic. You may want to consider MA in Teaching English as a Second Language. To be qualified for such course you need to have a minimum of 2 years of work experience as an ESL teacher. For some university, they need letters of recommendation & they might want to interview you too.

Remember there is a huge difference in Learning English & Teaching English! Mastering English doesn't mean that you can teach it well.
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Anonymous:
This is true, however, the major fallback for CELTA and DELTA is that they are pro-communicative approach which only works with certain groups of learners. CELTA and DELTA trained teachers are also weak in exam setting and also exam assessments. I would not say that having an MA TESOL is not as good or better than getting a DELTA. For example, if you have an MA TESOL from Brigham Young University or Utah State University, where they have a strong School of Education, you will be very well trained both theoretically as well as practicality. You will need to do at least 2 semesters of practicum, teaching English in their ELC. I am now working for International House where most of the teachers are CELTA and DELTA grads, but unfortunately when it comes to teaching, they are only capable of teaching classes using the communicative method. I have had students complaining to me saying that they were not learning grammar effectively. So, if ya pro-communicative teaching, then CELTA/DELTA would be the way to go, but if you are willing to explore other teaching methods, then an MA TESOL will be best for you.
Anonymous:
So what do you recommend to someone who is not a native speaker of English, but has lived and studied in the USA for 5 years, majored in communication with a minor in TESOL, and now is looking for further education and guidance in the ESL field (CELTA, DELTA, MA, etc.)? I would like to get into a program that offers quite an amount of student teaching and hands-on experience. Any suggestions or comments are welcome!
Anonymous:
I think it may also be prudent regards this choice to consider that a DELTA course does allow itself to be creditable towards certain MA education certficates and is expandable to qualify you to full teacher status within the U.K. and the U.S.. As a stepping stone it may well broaden your life choices in the long run.
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Hello,

Ima An English Teacher who works in Dubai.I have been teaching English for 5 yeqars now.I wanted to apply for MA in TESOL. I applied in the St. Clement university in th eBritish territories. I think it is not accredited though i have already finished two modules. I wouild really appreciate if you could help me to detirmine wether it is accredited or not as i have some douts about its status.

Awaiting your answer ASAp
Looking at their site, I'd be very doubtful about it as well. This is a private company that has set up in pretty much the only place in the world that allows private companies with 'university' in their name to issue degrees. This doesn't make it a university as recognised anywhere else. Only a few of their courses are accredited and none of the accrediting bodies are actually major or internationally well-known ones. Most are 'society of this and that' accreditations - and anyone can set up a society.

Check with TESOL directly as to whether they recognise this 'university' and accredit the course. You can find details at www.tesol.org
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Anonymous:
Hi Eric,

I've got an MA in TESOL as well as an MA in Applied Linguistics from different universities. Of course, I don't regret doing those degrees because I have acquired so much theoretical knowledge from the masters program and a deep insight into understanding how English language systems work but I must admit that both seemed to lack the practical components quite significantly. So in terms of becoming an effective and conscientious teacher, I would recommend the CELTA and DELTA. I did my CELTA 10 years ago and I really loved it. Honestly it helped me deal with classroom situations much better than the masters. I don't think I would have learnt to do what I do now only through the masters. I'm also doing the DELTA pre course component online now before the face to face course work in March. I've been told that if you're planning to be a teacher trainer, you are much better off with the DELTA than the masters. But then again, it depends on your priority. Some recognised University language centres highly value the masters!! Emotion: smile
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