Peaceblinkfriend  +  580091 Sat, 25 Oct 08 03:02 PM Could I describe a diary entry which was made to look genuine although in fact it was written specifically to illustrate language points in a text book as 'made for diary entry'?  "Does this look like a made for diary entry to you?" Thank you PBF Peaceblinkfriend Joined on Wed, May 9 2007 Senior Member 2,130 Success - it is not the position where you are standing, but which direction you are going.

	Clive  +  580097 Sat, 25 Oct 08 03:10 PM Hi, Have a look at the word 'simulated'. Best wishes, Clive Clive Joined on Thu, Oct 28 2004 Canada Veteran Member 29,668 El tango argentino es un pensamiento triste que se puede bailar (The tango argentino is a sad thought which can be danced) Enrique Santos Discépolo

	Avangi  +  580102 Sat, 25 Oct 08 03:17 PM This doesn't work, PBF.  You'll just have to write it out   -   unless someone else has a term. Does this look like an artificially composed (fake, bogus, counterfeit, contrived) diary entry to you?  Do you need to get the "language points" in there too?? Does this look to you like a diary entry created for demonstration purposes only?   - A. Edit.  Bravo, Clive!  Why couldn't I think of that? P.S.  The only example of "made for" which is remotely similar (that I can think of) is a made-for-TV movie.  But this is a very common expression which everyone understands.  I don't think you can use "made-for-X" in general application.  In other words, it's a movie but it's not really a [genuine] movie.  It's a special-purpose movie.  You'd have to say, "a made-for-teaching diary entry." Avangi Joined on Mon, Nov 19 2007 Veteran Member 8,207 ". . . le plaisir delicieux et toujours nouveau d'une occupation inutile." - Henri de Regnier

	Peaceblinkfriend  +  580301 Sun, 26 Oct 08 03:26 AM Thank you for your replies, Clive and Avangi. So would 'simulated' be the term I'm looking for here? I am more familiar with the verb 'to simulate' than the adjective 'simulated'.  "Does this look like a simulated diary entry to you?"  Thank you again  PBF Peaceblinkfriend Verbs

	Avangi  +  580308 Sun, 26 Oct 08 04:39 AM I think that's the best we can do.  I don't know how you can specify the purpose for which it was simulated (for teaching/demonstrating points of language) unless you explain it out in a separate phrase.   - A. Avangi

	AlpheccaStars  +  580311 Sun, 26 Oct 08 04:45 AM  How about "fabricated"? AlpheccaStars Joined on Sun, Oct 12 2008 Senior Member 3,508 The pen is mightier than the sword. Edward Bulwer-Lytton (1803-1873)

	Avangi  +  580313 Sun, 26 Oct 08 04:56 AM Hi, A-S I like Clive's better, because in my experience "fabricated" often simply means constructed/assembled, and not necessarily falsified or not genuine. "Simulated," on the other hand, always means an imitation of the real thing. You could surely say that PBF's entry is fabricated, but you could also say that of any diary or diary entry.  (I agree we generally assume when a document is said to be "fabricated," that it's been falsified.) Best wishes,  - A. Avangi

	AlpheccaStars  +  580317 Sun, 26 Oct 08 05:25 AM  Hi Avangi: Here's the Random House definition for fabricate (Webster's is similar) 1. to make by art or skill and labor; construct: The finest craftspeople fabricated this clock. 2. to make by assembling parts or sections. 3. to devise or invent (a legend, lie, etc.). 4. to fake; forge (a document, signature, etc.). and Simulate: 1. to create a simulation, likeness, or model of (a situation, system, or the like): to simulate crisis conditions. 2. to make a pretense of; feign: to simulate knowledge. 3. to assume or have the appearance or characteristics of: He simulated the manners of the rich. So either might suffice in this situation.  AlpheccaStars Tenses

	Avangi  +  580327 Sun, 26 Oct 08 06:11 AM I agree.  "Fabricate" sometimes means "fake," and "simulate" always means "fake." Avangi