milky  +  318329 Mon, 22 Jan 07 10:56 AM   The London-Lund corpus reveals that British females tend to position adverbial clauses in clause-final position and British males have a tendency to place them in initial position. Why should that be? If anyone has any information on the above "phenomenon", could you please let me have it? Also, have you noticed any differences in the way males and females use grammar in your variant? milky Joined on Thu, Jan 15 2004 Senior Member 3,149 Hume said that if we had perfect or complete descriptive knowledge of reality, we could not, by reasoning, derive a single valid "ought". Grammar, Clauses

	MrPedantic  +  318579 Tue, 23 Jan 07 12:00 AM  Milky wrote:   The London-Lund corpus reveals that British females tend to position adverbial clauses in clause-final position and British males have a tendency to place them in initial position. Do you have any examples, Milky? MrPedantic Joined on Tue, Oct 12 2004 Veteran Member 12,592 ...opella forensis / adducit febris... Clauses

	milky  +  318663 Tue, 23 Jan 07 05:03 AM  MrPedantic wrote:  Milky wrote:   The London-Lund corpus reveals that British females tend to position adverbial clauses in clause-final position and British males have a tendency to place them in initial position. Do you have any examples, Milky? Examples of sentences with an adverbial clause in either position? Erm, can't you just make them up? milky Clauses

	Kimm  +  318762 Tue, 23 Jan 07 10:23 AM How about examples from the corpus?  There is a difference between made up examples and real ones. /km Kimm Joined on Wed, Jan 17 2007 New Member 41 Difference Between

	milky  +  318807 Tue, 23 Jan 07 01:09 PM If you can access the London-Lund corpus, Kimm, let me know. As for me, I'm only reporting what I heard. I can't imagine the London-Lund people needing to tell lies or invent examples, can you? milky

	Kimm  +  318849 Tue, 23 Jan 07 02:29 PM If you are unable to give examples, why not say so?  You seem quick to get on the defensive.  What's up? /km Kimm

	MrPedantic  +  319029 Tue, 23 Jan 07 10:35 PM  Milky wrote:  MrPedantic wrote:  Milky wrote:   The London-Lund corpus reveals that British females tend to position adverbial clauses in clause-final position and British males have a tendency to place them in initial position. Do you have any examples, Milky? Examples of sentences with an adverbial clause in either position? Erm, can't you just make them up? Well, I suppose I could; but since I'm a British male, my clause-final adverbials would then subvert the "tendency". Q non ED. Besides, you did say: "The London-Lund corpus reveals that British females tend to position adverbial clauses in clause-final position and British males have a tendency to place them in initial position." So it's not unreasonable to ask to see the evidence that supports the statement. MrP MrPedantic Clauses

	milky  +  319042 Tue, 23 Jan 07 11:17 PM <So it's not unreasonable to ask to see the evidence that supports the statement.> The address of ICAME, where copies of the London-Lund Corpus can be obtained, is: The HIT Centre, Allégt. 27, N-5007 Bergen, Norway icame@hit.uib.no milky

	MrPedantic  +  319057 Tue, 23 Jan 07 11:54 PM I bet all your cheques bounce, too. MrP MrPedantic