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Maple  #258926  Thu, 24 Aug 06 06:17 PM
Interesting. Thanks for this information!
  
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Goodman  #258928  Thu, 24 Aug 06 06:32 PM

 Maple wrote:
Interesting. Thanks for this information!

Going back to the original context, I would say, “nobody can stop our getting married” is perfectly fine.  Maybe it’s me, [prevent] sounds rough on the edges.

Sure, prevent something from happening sounds perfectly correct.

We must prevent their wedding ceremony from taking place- fine. But if this marriage is opposed, then the opposing feeling should want to stop it all together. Prevent gives me a sense of allowance somehow.  

  
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Marius Hancu  #259029  Thu, 24 Aug 06 11:44 PM
 Goodman wrote:
Going back to the original context, I would say, “nobody can stop our getting married” is perfectly fine. 
That would also be my first choice.
  
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MrPedantic  #259043  Fri, 25 Aug 06 12:59 AM

1. Nobody can prevent our getting married.

2. Nobody can prevent our marriage.

These are both fine, in terms of grammar; my dictionary gives two examples of this usage, which accord with #1 and #2 respectively:

3. I shall not prevent your going.

4. Should anything occur to prevent his return...

However, both #1 and #2 are quite formal; in everyday usage, it would probably be more usual to say:

5. Nobody can prevent us from getting married.

Or:

6. Nobody can stop us getting married.

(I have to admit, "Nobody can stop our getting married" sounds a little creaky to me; but perhaps other members would disagree.)

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CalifJim  #259061  Fri, 25 Aug 06 03:15 AM
Maybe it's a this-side-of-the-pond / that-side-of-the-pond thing, but I'm used to ... stop us from getting ...  It sounds odd to my ear without the from.

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Maple  #259102  Fri, 25 Aug 06 07:06 AM

Now I think I've found my comprehension bug of the word "prevent" in post 258916.

I failed to comprehend that the meaning of "from-happening" is already possessed by the word "prevent" itself. See:

We took steps to prevent the strike.= We took steps to keep the strike from happening.

We must prevent their wedding ceremony = We must keep their wedding ceremony from taking place.

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 CalifJim wrote:
Maybe it's a this-side-of-the-pond / that-side-of-the-pond thing, ............

"a this-side-of-the-pond/that-side-of-the-pond thing" This is my first time to see this idiom, but let me guess its meaningBig Smile [:D]: The views are different from the two sides of the pond. So this is not a matter of right-or-wrong, but a matter of on which position one stands.Thinking [8-)]

  
CalifJim  #259109  Fri, 25 Aug 06 07:35 AM
It's not exactly an idiom since I just made it up on the spur of the moment, based on another idiom.
The original idiom is cross the pond.
pond means the Atlantic Ocean. 

-- I heard that the Jones family are going to Europe next summer.
-- Really?  Have they ever crossed the pond before?


this side and that side would be the U.S. and the U.K.  So I meant that the difference in the grammar (stop / stop from) may be because of differences between AmE (American English) and BrE (British English).

CJ

  
Maple  #259110  Fri, 25 Aug 06 07:43 AM

Oops! What a huge pond

Thanks for your explanation.

Maple

  
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