MrPedantic  +  51122 Tue, 19 Oct 04 10:43 PM That sounds right to me. There's a bluegrass version by someone or other (Iron Horse?) where the 'thee' is much clearer. It is confusing. I think the unforgiven must have been pretty confused too. ("Hey! Is he dubbing us?" "I thought he said 'thee'. That can't be us. We're we." "Well, there's no one else round here...") MrPedantic Joined on Tue, Oct 12 2004 Veteran Member 12,592 ...opella forensis / adducit febris...

	bratannia  +  51125 Tue, 19 Oct 04 10:59 PM No other online Merriam-Webster fans here? Dub (transitive verb) 1 a : to confer knighthood on b : to call by a distinctive title, epithet, or nickname 2 : to trim or remove the comb and wattles of 3 a : to hit (a golf ball) poorly b : to execute poorly - dub·ber noun Don't know the song, but meaning 1 would work in context, as would meaning 3, especially if "the unforgiven" were chickens. Have you ever forgiven a chicken? It would be a great act of metal band power if you could personally and permanently confer unforgivenness on someone as if you were knighting them. A touch of my sword, or guitar, and you, my friend, are be(k)nighted as one of the unforgiven. A bit like "I cast thee into Hell," which is surely the main theme of thoughtful metal music today. bratannia Joined on Fri, Apr 9 2004 Amsterdam Junior Member 66 Verbs, Nouns

	ericupsman  +  68014 Sun, 16 Jan 05 05:01 PM I am certain it is "THEE" rather than "THE" in the song. Interestingly enough, there are two versions to that song.... "Unforgiven" and "Unforgiven II" Compare these two verses from both versions and I think it will help you understand more... "Unforgiven" What I’ve felt What I’ve known Never shined through in what I’ve shown Never free Never me So I dub thee unforgiven You labeled me I’ll label you So I dub thee unforgiven ________________________________________ "Unforgiven II" Oh, what I've felt Oh, what I've known I take this key and I bury it in you Because you're unforgiven too Never free, never me 'Cause you're unforgiven too, oh "I dub thee unforgiven" = I will never forgive you. ericupsman Joined on Sun, Dec 12 2004 Florida, USA Full Member 117 Every day may not be good, but there is something good in every day.