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Kooyeen  +  944197 Fri, 16 Oct 09 02:03 PM
Hi,

I agree that you posted too many questions at once. You should focus on less threads at the same time (one or two questions, generally), and move on to posting other questions only once you are done with the previous threads, otherwise the forums become messy and confusing, and chances are you won't get any satisfying replies. From now on, do so please.


Also, do you have any specific questions? I don't think you don't understand "anything", so I don't think the whole transcripts are necessary. I'm only saying this because writing long transcripts takes time, compared to just giving advice on a couple of words or sentences.


I would be tempted to delete the threds in excess or put all the links in one post, but that would make it worse, and if I delete your links without notice you might forget them or lose them.

So I'll leave it as it is, for now, but please don't do it again.


I will try to take a look at some of your clips when I have time (if I can, as an exercise, since I'm not a native speaker).

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coloraday  +  944335 Fri, 16 Oct 09 04:29 PM
Kooyeen
“Also, do you have any specific questions? I don't think you don't understand "anything", so I don't think the whole transcripts are necessary. I'm only saying this because writing long transcripts takes time, compared to just giving advice on a couple of words or sentences.”

Each of them has just a few words which I can't get.They're very short.You don't have to make long transcripts.

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raindoctor  +  944500 Fri, 16 Oct 09 08:55 PM
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“That doesn't mean you have to post 18 times. You shuda combined them into a single post.”


Since we're preaching up proper English here, please, don't post "kind-of-chat" language here.


I don't belong to the set 'we' you refer to. Second,  I don't preach anything that doesn't belong to phonology. In that sense, 'shuda' is a valid one: in fact, many in accent reduction specialists advise students learn such fast speech phonological processes.

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Kooyeen  +  945117 Sat, 17 Oct 09 02:29 PM
Alright, I tried to listen to this one (yes, it's short), and I don't understand anything, LOL! I guess I should worry... And get a move on and try to improve my skills. Ok, I'll try to do my best.

Here's what I hear, literally:


So that pose could concentrate on her athletic trum(p)s and go dlam a microskirpt.


Which doesn't make any sense of course, and the best improved version I can think of is:


So that Pose could concentrate on her athletic trumps and gold lamé microskirt.


Notes:

#1 - Pose: I am supposing it is a kind of name or something. Something like "Poles" would make more sense, but I really can't hear the L-sound.

#2 - Trumps: I don't know what "athletic trumps" might mean (legs? hips?), but that's what I hear.

#3 - Gold: I hadn't heard the L-sound before I improved the sentence and figured it might be "gold".

#4 - Lamé: Pronounced "Lah-may", that's what I heard, and I figured it might be a word I didn't know, a kind of fabric. And I was so surprised to find out it was actually a real word when I looked in the dictionary! I guessed right, lol.

#5 - Microskirt: I don't know why it's pronounced mih-croskirt though. Why not my-kroskirt? Microphone, microwave, microscope... Hmm.

coloraday  +  945316 Sat, 17 Oct 09 07:59 PM
Thank you very much,Yes it's Poles referring to Polish people.

And Athletic Trumps still remains a mystery.

Kooyeen  +  946215 Sun, 18 Oct 09 05:55 PM
Well, for some reason I kept thinking of "trumpets", LOL... I had forgotten what "trumps" were. Now that I think of it, "athletic trumps" might mean something like "athletic skills". Maybe she was a dancer or something... Just guessing, anyway. I have no idea what that movie is like.
Yankee  +  947636 Tue, 20 Oct 09 02:09 AM
Kooyeen
“So that Pose could concentrate on her athletic trumps and gold lamé microskirt.”
This is what I hear:


So that pose could concentrate on her athletic charms and gold lamé microskirt.


I definitely do not hear "trumps" -- I hear "charms".


To me, the speaker sounds like he might not be a native speaker of English -- which might explain the mispronunciation of "microskirt", as well as some of the rest of the difficulties.


I hear the word "pose" rather than "Poles", but without additional context, it's difficult to say for sure what he's saying there.

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Kooyeen  +  948285 Tue, 20 Oct 09 06:29 PM
Yankee


I definitely do not hear "trumps" -- I hear "charms".


Oops. I listened to the clip again, and it might well be "charms" (non-rhotic). This isn't the first time I've confused uh with ah... it happens too often, actually.

coloraday  +  948386 Tue, 20 Oct 09 07:55 PM
Yankee
“I definitely do not hear "trumps" -- I hear "charms".”

But I still here otherwise ,trumps.


Yankee
“To me, the speaker sounds like he might not be a native speaker of English -- which might explain the mispronunciation of "microskirt", as well as some of the rest of the difficulties.”

The actor is Jeremy Irons,who is English, but maybe he wants to imitate a Polish person 'cause he is Polish in the film.


Yankee
“I hear the word "pose" rather than "Poles", but without additional context, it's difficult to say for sure what he's saying there.”

but I can here L-sound in Poles. 


Thank you very much Amy and Kooyeen.

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