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coloraday  +  941618 Wed, 14 Oct 09 08:34 AM
The fifth part:

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Yankee  +  947658 Tue, 20 Oct 09 02:46 AM
This is what I hear:


I can see you believe in working hard. Oh, it's perfectly all right with me. Just carry on.

(???), sir.

When the cat's away, you know...


The last part seems to be a reference to the expression "When the cat's away, the mice will play".


I couldn't get the part right before that -- it does sound as though that part is said by a different speaker, though. Probably by the guy who is working hard.

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Kooyeen  +  948078 Tue, 20 Oct 09 01:14 PM
I understood (when I listened to it, before seeing what Amy posted) this:


I can see you believe in working harder [...] When the cat's away, you know...


And now that I've seen Amy's post, I can recognize "it's perfectly all right with me, just carry on". I don't understand the part in between, but I might make another attempt and maybe post later.

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coloraday  +  948361 Tue, 20 Oct 09 07:29 PM
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“I couldn't get the part right before that -- it does sound as though that part is said by a different speaker, though. Probably by the guy who is working hard.”

No this man says the whole part.

I think I hear 'Sunday' there.You must ...on Sunday.(maybe) 

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coloraday  +  948366 Tue, 20 Oct 09 07:30 PM
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“The last part seems to be a reference to the expression "When the cat's away, the mice will play".”

Very helpful.

Kooyeen  +  948469 Tue, 20 Oct 09 09:54 PM
coloraday
“I think I hear 'Sunday' there.You must ...on Sunday.(maybe) ”

Hmm, it might be "Sunday", yes. Here comes a BIG problem that I've been wondering about for ages... And I'd like to find out more on this phenomenon soon.The problem is, I can sometimes hear different things, depending on what I expect to hear... and sometimes I find that it is possible to hear two different things at the same time.

At first, I understood something like this:

He woss kown drowned on sunday => He works kind of drowned on sunday???

I have no idea. But if I listen again and again focusing on certain sounds, a strange thing happens. And I can hear the first word in three different ways:

He woss...

You woss...

Here wass...

He, you, here? I listen with each of those different "versions" in mind, and each of them seems to "fit" equally good when I expect to hear it. Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?


Now I know this is normal and common when vowel sounds are involved: if there is a vowel sound that is between two vowels you know, you can hear that vowel in two ways, according to your set of phonemes. But when consonant sounds are involved, I get scared... consonants are more complex than vowels.

The truth is native speakers often understand only because they already know what to expect, not because they heard perfectly what was said. And "perception" seems to be more complicated than we think, and I posted an interesting video in another section, to avoid going off-topic (the video is at http://www.englishforums.com/English/McgurksEffect/lgrxq/post.htm)

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