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Aleen  #314047  Thu, 11 Jan 07 05:53 PM

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Muslims are the biggest threat to civilization.

i think it's unsensible to judge Muslims from what u see on tv, the media exaggerate a lot i believe u'll change your prespective if u  visit a muslim country and know Muslims well but anyway we respect your point of view indeed

  
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Anonymous  #314059  Thu, 11 Jan 07 06:46 PM
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 Pidr1nhu wrote:
Hi Mythical Lady,

You got my point, and yes you are right when saying about my desire to know about Islam which is being 'deteriorated' (if this is the right expression) by those who use this great religion as base to launch attacks.This static situation of horror is really complexed to be dealt with, all this continuous suffering contributes to greying one's horizon which leads to gloomy perspectives as ANONYMOUS cited: what can you expect from someone who have been suffering all over his life? but everything has a TURNABOUT and Brazil's slums represent this overwhelmingly. Slums were formed by oppresed peasants who migrated from poorer areas to great cities in search of better life and progress, however, what they did found was nothing, all the amazing stories of people who seized their opportunities and established their lives, living in comfort, faded on their memories. Years passed and what has been created among these slums was a strong odor of violence, prostitution, no health care system, no education at all, houses? not exactly houses, huts, very poor huts. What perspectives would you expect them to have? But not everybody is criminal, there you can find respect where you would never think it could have. Organized groups are working to reverse this situation, creating socializing classes to teach these people a job, an occupation, a life. By saying this you can think: what does it have to do with Iraq, we can draw a parallel, Brazil's have one of the biggest rates of violence due to these centers of crime, if i am not wrong, we are the second country in rank, our numbers of violence represent a silent civil war but as volunteers are trying to express: There is always a TURNABOUT.


i was talking about a war not povrety ,a WAR, a life's man which is full of violence since his childhood someone who lost his parents he is not told what is right or wrong besides having a poor country  please try to understand the situation it's not like what's is going is Brazil you have never been living in wars you haven't seen massacares so it's hard to say that Y is like X what is going in brazil is different see how iraqis and palestinians are living you'll know what i mean but i'm afraid that the media isn't making the right coverage of their awfull situation  i don't justify those ideas but this is the cause of this problem
hmm you can also notice there is criminals there in brazil as you said!so there is a negative part moreover the minority is going into that kind of actions not the majority  i hope a turnabout will happen i really wish so

Anonymous, you didn't get the meaning, poverty itself created the silent civil war (numbers of civil war, thousands killed each year mainly by firearm). Exactly how you described: a man's life full of violence since childhood, someone who lost his parents.....It happens in Brazil! kids who don't know the meaning of friendship, they live by theirselves, in a lingering terror situation, having to watch their backs to not be shot to death; THIS IS DAILY!

Okay , the situation aren't the same but I didn't say that, I just drawed a parallel. I can't and I would not want to imagine how is the present scenery of part of middle-east involved in confronts with western countries. I am glad you still hopes for a turnabout, you are already a CHAMPION...

i want to add that those nations are the causee of their suffering that's why they end up terrorizing these sides and this is what makes it different than Brazil too, the occupation with it's huge disasters  cause this so they spit their anger towards those nations  who casued their suffer 

 already a champion?why?

  
Anonymous  #314074  Thu, 11 Jan 07 07:29 PM

 Anonymous wrote:
Muslims are the biggest threat to civilization.

I don't understand how you can blame 1 billion Muslim Tongue Tied [:S] come on! 

  
Pidr1nhu  #314103  Thu, 11 Jan 07 08:44 PM
The real threats to civilization are politics pro racism, xenophobia mainly against poor immigrants who have already been certified as a citizen of such location.Let's include in real threats also politics from developed nations which aims on harming a certain country due to intense econominal gain.
I would classify muslims as a threat when talking about extremism, transgressing the decent standards of a society: Suicide attacks, kidnapping and calls for jihad as have recently  been done in Somalia.
  
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Mythical Lady  #314171  Thu, 11 Jan 07 11:27 PM

 Anonymous wrote:
Muslims are the biggest threat to civilization.

I daresay that such a thinking is the biggest threat to civilization!!

  
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Pidr1nhu  #314198  Fri, 12 Jan 07 01:14 AM
 Anonymous wrote:
 Anonymous wrote:
 Anonymous wrote:

 Pidr1nhu wrote:
Hi Mythical Lady,

You got my point, and yes you are right when saying about my desire to know about Islam which is being 'deteriorated' (if this is the right expression) by those who use this great religion as base to launch attacks.This static situation of horror is really complexed to be dealt with, all this continuous suffering contributes to greying one's horizon which leads to gloomy perspectives as ANONYMOUS cited: what can you expect from someone who have been suffering all over his life? but everything has a TURNABOUT and Brazil's slums represent this overwhelmingly. Slums were formed by oppresed peasants who migrated from poorer areas to great cities in search of better life and progress, however, what they did found was nothing, all the amazing stories of people who seized their opportunities and established their lives, living in comfort, faded on their memories. Years passed and what has been created among these slums was a strong odor of violence, prostitution, no health care system, no education at all, houses? not exactly houses, huts, very poor huts. What perspectives would you expect them to have? But not everybody is criminal, there you can find respect where you would never think it could have. Organized groups are working to reverse this situation, creating socializing classes to teach these people a job, an occupation, a life. By saying this you can think: what does it have to do with Iraq, we can draw a parallel, Brazil's have one of the biggest rates of violence due to these centers of crime, if i am not wrong, we are the second country in rank, our numbers of violence represent a silent civil war but as volunteers are trying to express: There is always a TURNABOUT.


i was talking about a war not povrety ,a WAR, a life's man which is full of violence since his childhood someone who lost his parents he is not told what is right or wrong besides having a poor country  please try to understand the situation it's not like what's is going is Brazil you have never been living in wars you haven't seen massacares so it's hard to say that Y is like X what is going in brazil is different see how iraqis and palestinians are living you'll know what i mean but i'm afraid that the media isn't making the right coverage of their awfull situation  i don't justify those ideas but this is the cause of this problem
hmm you can also notice there is criminals there in brazil as you said!so there is a negative part moreover the minority is going into that kind of actions not the majority  i hope a turnabout will happen i really wish so

Anonymous, you didn't get the meaning, poverty itself created the silent civil war (numbers of civil war, thousands killed each year mainly by firearm). Exactly how you described: a man's life full of violence since childhood, someone who lost his parents.....It happens in Brazil! kids who don't know the meaning of friendship, they live by theirselves, in a lingering terror situation, having to watch their backs to not be shot to death; THIS IS DAILY!

Okay , the situation aren't the same but I didn't say that, I just drawed a parallel. I can't and I would not want to imagine how is the present scenery of part of middle-east involved in confronts with western countries. I am glad you still hopes for a turnabout, you are already a CHAMPION...

i want to add that those nations are the causee of their suffering that's why they end up terrorizing these sides and this is what makes it different than Brazil too, the occupation with it's huge disasters  cause this so they spit their anger towards those nations  who casued their suffer 

 already a champion?why?



Ok Anonymous, I think I have already presented my point of view and tried to draw a parallel between countries cited on previous letters.
Your claim that 'those nations are the cause of their suffering' is totally acceptable, now it's time to put a final conclusion on it....facts have been cited and their consequences as well, figuring out new methods of restrain islamic extremism would be the real goal.
Regards

P.S. Great conversation Anonymous, you really spurred me to comment on a such controversial subjetc without offenses.
  
Anonymous  #314614  Fri, 12 Jan 07 11:17 PM

we are all praying and asking for this on the other side they should stop their violence against those muslims and stop siezing their rights stop occuping them stop threatining children with weapons if a child learn that their language are weapons and killing he sadly will end up a terrorist (becasue this is the language that had been taught to him by them) i want to add that i was talking about a specific kind of terrorism the kind that is happening in iraq or palestine not Taliban

thanks Pidr it was my pleasure

  
Pidr1nhu  #314627  Sat, 13 Jan 07 12:04 AM
I still hope and act for a better world.It's up to us...
  
Anonymous  #314643  Sat, 13 Jan 07 12:43 AM

 Conus Lotus wrote:
I think you are right Inglish - Radical Moslems want to take over the world, by force if necessary - Christians do not (although they do consider it their duty to spread God's word).
To my knowledge there are no terrorist Christians (who commit mass murder) - this is a fallacy, but there seem to be many murderous Radical Moslems.

So, we can see a big, BIG difference between Radical Moslems and Christians. Mohamed would be very angry with these murderous fools. He will stand at the gate to Heaven and beat them away to Hell himself - with a very big stick.

some christians did commit mass murder in the past it was done by who are called Crossers they were killing every muslim and chopped their heads, in algeria france killed a million the  British Manadate  killed many too and the american army is killing Iraqis so what makes you think that they didn't unless you don't know what's happening in this world

  
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