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Clive  +  590675 Sat, 22 Nov 08 01:24 PM
Hi,
Yes, it's easy to misspell some wors, isn't it? (:P) Stick out tongue

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Anonymous, 314 days ago

The use of style Ms is an informal and spoken way of addressing one who prefers not to be called Mrs. or Miss. In formal correspondence and anything written however, the only two forms that are correct are Mrs. For married women and Miss for unmarried women. For those who feel uncomfortable with style Miss. Madam is the spoken upon greeting and Ma’am subsequently. How ever please note that the use of Ms. Is not to be used in formal correspondence be it spoken or written.  

Mister Micawber  +  641932 Wed, 14 Jan 09 04:44 AM
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The use of style Ms is an informal and spoken way of addressing one who prefers not to be called Mrs. or Miss. In formal correspondence and anything written however, the only two forms that are correct are Mrs. For married women and Miss for unmarried women. For those who feel uncomfortable with style Miss. Madam is the spoken upon greeting and Ma’am subsequently. How ever please note that the use of Ms. Is not to be used in formal correspondence be it spoken or written.


No, no and no.  I preserve this post as a warning of how wrong some answers on grammar forums (or anywhere on the internet) can be.  Students beware; know the reputability of your sources.
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Grammar Geek  +  642354 Wed, 14 Jan 09 01:43 PM

Mister Micawber
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The use of style Ms is an informal and spoken way of addressing one who prefers not to be called Mrs. or Miss. In formal correspondence and anything written however, the only two forms that are correct are Mrs. For married women and Miss for unmarried women. For those who feel uncomfortable with style Miss. Madam is the spoken upon greeting and Ma’am subsequently. How ever please note that the use of Ms. Is not to be used in formal correspondence be it spoken or written.


No, no and no.  I preserve this post as a warning of how wrong some answers on grammar forums (or anywhere on the internet) can be.  Students beware; know the reputability of your sources.
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I  just want to add my voice to how WRONG this information is!

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Anonymous, 301 days ago
I wanted to thank you for this awesome and informative thread. It was just what I needed!
Anonymous, 269 days ago
I never thought of all this addressing "Miss, Mrs, and Ms" in so much depth, until I got married. It's true. Why should it matter if we are married or not? Men do not have to worry about this aspect with "Mr." I used to feel awkward about which to write in emails to clients, but now I only use Ms. because it really shouldn't matter. Right? :P
Anonymous, 249 days ago
Personally, as a 'Miss' I find 'Ms' quite insulting.  - When information comes from a business, it makes it look like they haven't bothered to find out which is preferred.

Not being able to choose 'Miss' on forms is annoying, when you can choose between Mrs or Ms - I'm not a divorced / feminist / other commotations that 'Ms' has; and I'm not yet married.  Once I am married, then Mrs will be fine, as it shows that I am part of the one 'entity' that is marriage.

Mister Micawber  +  688812 Fri, 20 Mar 09 04:35 AM
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I am sorry that you find it 'insulting', as it is not intended to be so. 'Ms' has appeared as a response to the demands of many more women who do prefer that designation.  'Ms' no longer holds the connotations that you seem to wish to harbour yourself.  However, if you require 'Miss' (until hallowed 'Mrs' becomes your fortune), then you will have to pursue the course that preservers of the title 'Esq.' do-- use it constantly in all your correspondence.  Alert businesses will take note.  Beyond that, how would you suggest that businesses find out which title is preferred?  Would you like them to phone or email you and ask if you are single or married?
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rafaelinrio  suggested by cwtch  +  688821 Fri, 20 Mar 09 04:57 AM
What's the big deal about it all?
It's so simple, no need for any further discussion.

With my neighboors, teachers at school and women I know who are married  I've always used Mrs.
 
As for women I don't know I always stick to Ms. and have never had a problem. I don't think it sounds impolite.

Young girls I just  call by the first name.

As for Miss...I don't use it that much. I remember using it a few times in school because I had some single teachers.

Concluding, I think titles are a part of an old society. I don't think that calling a person by his/her first name shows disrespect at all. My mother for instance prefers to be called by her first name and all of my friends do so. Besides,  I also call many of my friends' mothers by their first names and we all have a good relationship.

Let's evolve our minds, we're in the 21st century.
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