must have done = may have done?

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Viceidol  #483530  Sat, 01 Mar 08 08:12 AM

* Sam was sure that his wallet must have been found by one of the villagers.

May I ask if I can replace the "must have been" with "may have been" or "might have been"? Like the ones below:

* Sam was sure that his wallet may have been found by one of the villagers.

* Sam was sure that his wallet might have been found by one of the villagers.

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Cool Breeze  #483541  Sat, 01 Mar 08 08:52 AM
Hi Viceidol

There is nothing ungrammatical in using may or might instead of must but as you have was sure at the beginning of the sentence, must is a far better choice. If you think of the meanings of may, might and must in your native language, I think you'll realise that the same is true even then.

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Kooyeen  #483635  Sat, 01 Mar 08 01:40 PM
Hi,
are you guys sure "must" is ok used that way? Does that sound good?
I'm asking this because I think "must" usually becomes "had to" in the past. I don't like sentences like "When I was in high school one of my teachers told me I must write an essay about weapons". I say "had to".
The verb "must have been" is ok when you are using it from a present point of view ("Did you see that guy on TV? She must have been out of his mind"), but in Viceidol's example it's used from a past point of view.
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Marius Hancu  #483642  Sat, 01 Mar 08 01:56 PM
must have been: very probably it was (look in Swan)
  
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Cool Breeze  #483660  Sat, 01 Mar 08 02:44 PM
Kooyeen
Hi,
are you guys sure "must" is ok used that way? Does that sound good?
I'm asking this because I think "must" usually becomes "had to" in the past. I don't like sentences like "When I was in high school one of my teachers told me I must write an essay about weapons". I say "had to".
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Hi Kooyeen

There are people  -  and I am one of them Smile  -  who consider it correct to use must + present infinitive in a "that" clause when must indicates a conclusion, not obligation:

I knew [that] he must be tired after having walked 20 kilometres.

Cheers

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CalifJim  #483721  Sat, 01 Mar 08 04:50 PM
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May I ask if I can replace the "must have been" with "may have been" or "might have been"?
You may, and you have.  The answer is no.  That replacement is not possible.

CJ 

  
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