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MrPedantic  +  179120 Thu, 05 Jan 06 12:09 AM

That would certainly compensate for the inconvenience.

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Passionate_freak  +  179335 Thu, 05 Jan 06 01:51 PM

Hi there MrP and  Sextus,

Well, honestly telling you I've not been this kind of big stuff yet because it demands some patience , determinations and time. But anyone can do it if one can find the person who has mastered the things.

And the most authentic person in the world was Dr. Narayan Dutt Shrimali and still there are his living disciples who know all these things but they are in the Himalayas, I'm on another kind of practice at the moment.

And let me post something about Dr. Shrimali :

A Day Spent With Reverent Gurudev

I had heard a lot about Dr. Shrimali in connection with occult knowledges. Both the ascetic and the householder aspirants had accepted his unrivalled authority. I hoped to meet this great scholar and talk to him regarding the field of spiritualism. At last my long cherished desire was fulfilled, and he spared me a few moments from his busy schedule. Following is the conversation which took place between us .

Q.   Dr. Shrimali you are considered as one of the most distinguished personalities throughout the world. How do you feel on being flocked by so many admirers?
A.  

Basically, I am an inhabitant of Rajasthan and I have grown up in a very religious atmosphere. I was married off at a tender age and thus accomplished my Doctorate facing many problems and hardships. After that I decided to dedicate my whole life for the re-establishment of ancient lores of India, to introduce Mantra and Tantra to the society and Siddhashram Sadhak Parivaar has proved itself to be a solid foundation to my resolution.

 
Q.   Fine, for a moment, lets agree with the authenticity of the ‘Mantra’ and ‘Tantra’. But do we have experts of this field, even today?
A.  

Of course! But they usually maintain a distance from the society. They like to remain engrossed in their Sadhanas, in the natural caverns of the Himalayas. But through immovable determination one can reach them and acquire Diksha and wisdom through them. I personally know many such outstanding personalities who are established at the highest levels of Sadhana.

 
Q.   Mr. Shrimali, will you tell us your age?
A.  

You are making a big mistake if you are considering age as the duration between birth and death. It is but just a part of the continuance which we term life. You are considering physical age as everything, in which I am performing all my worldly tasks; but my spiritual age which has witnessed my renunciation, meditation and the ultimate attainment is beyond your viewing capabilities. Therefore, even if my physical age seems less my spiritual age is over thousands of years.

 
Q.   During what time did you perform your Sadhanas in the Himalayas?
A.  

People whose spiritual powers are activated can witness their previous lives. They remember each and every moment and the various Sadhanas that they had accomplished previously. I myself have spent about two thousand years doing penance in the extremities of. Himalayas, and I can recollect all those incidents; when I was lost in my meditation in the icy caverns, when I was accomplishing Sadhanas of the highest order, when I attained the realization of God and thus acquired totality of life. These incidents are closely related to my present life as even today I visit the Himalayas daily. During the day I remain amidst my householder disciples, whereas during the night I am totally occupied in guiding my ascetic disciples.

In fact you cannot realise anyone’s spiritual age through the medium of mind, therefore it is useless to challenge the age, life and the powers of a ‘Yogi.’ In fact there is no such ground on which we can criticize or counter them.

 
Q.   Is ‘Siddhashram’ a reality, or is it your imagination?
A.  

‘Siddhashram’ is real and authentic. It is the greatest goal of spirituality and a lot has been mentioned about it in various ancient scriptures. It is a divine Ashram’ which extends for many miles, to the North of Mansarovar & Kailash. But being covered by a thick layer of ozone, nobody can see it and it is also not possible to take its picture from a plane or a satellite.

There is nothing such as death in this celestial land of elixir. Everybody is free from all kinds of sorrows, weakness, and anxieties. All seem to be savouring the effects of pleasure, juvenility and happiness. Even today one can see the great Yogis like Vashishtha. Vishwamitra, Garg, Atri, Kanad, Shri Krishna, Shankaracharya etc. wandering about, and can converse with them for acquiring guidance in various Sadhanas. In fact it is the duty of Siddhashrami’ to maintain the equilibrium between materialism and spiritualism, and to work it out extraordinary Yogis present themselves in this world, from time to time.

A person can enter ‘Siddhashram’ only through spiritual powers and only then he achieves the totality of life.

 
Q.   Won’t the people become indolent if you involve them in the golden dreams of Mantra and Tantra?
A.  

There is no question of becoming indolent because diligence is very essential in the field of Sadhana. When you cannot subjugate even a person these days, then imagine the assiduousness with which one has to work, to subjugate the supernatural powers. It requires total dedication, hard work, and the ability to utilize every moment and that too while performing the duties of the household, Only then the person will be able to transform himself into a rational, civilized and a diligent personality.

 
Q.   You have claimed to have solved difficult problems through Tantra. Is it a fact, or a medium to acquire publicity?
A.  

Tantra and Mantra have been created to make the human life more successful and pleasurable. Just try and perform these Mantras yourself in a systematic way, and surely all the, problems of your life will drift away. But it requires accurate pronunciation of the Mantras, authentic Sadhana material and proper guidance. Many of my disciples have attained the zenith of success through them, in a matter of days, and today they are considered as eminent personalities of the society.

 
Q.   But our scientists don’t approve the authenticity of Mantra-Tantra, and the intellectual class also makes fun about it.
A.  

The scientists can’t approve it, they have their own limitations and therefore their intellectual capabilities cease on crossing these limits. They find themselves helpless in penetrating the world of spirituality. In fact the commencement of Sadhana begins only after the termination of science.

Therefore it is useless to compare the two. However, even the western scientists have accepted the transcendental powers of the Yogis and they are researching in this field.

And if people make fun about it, it only specifies their narrow mentality. Those who are incompetent themselves, can do nothing but make fun of others. And it is wise to ignore fools.

 
Q.   We have heard that you can know about the previous life of a person, through Hypnotism?
A.  

Yes, it is not a difficult task. The field of Hypnotism’ is very vast, and the present life of a person is related to his previous lives. Therefore an eminent hypnotist can peer into the previous life, solve the mysteries pertaining to the present misfortunes and if he is accomplished with spiritual powers, he can also destroy the ill effects of the previous deeds, with the help of ‘Yogic’ practices.

 
Q.   Are Gods and Godesses real?
A.  

Of course! All the Gods and Goddesses mentioned in our scriptures are real, and one can acquire their glimpse by performing their respective Sadhanas. But for this, it is very necessary to dedicate yourself completely in the feet of the deity. There is no place for doubt in this field. Lord Krishna had also quoted in the Gita that ‘Sanshayaatama Vinashyati’ i.e. a doubting mind leads to destruction.

Therefore it is useless to hope for divine favours unless you are pure within.

 
Q.   How can we believe their existence when we can’t see them? This is nothing but misleading the people.
A.  

I ask you whether you have seen the Niagara falls of Canada? If no, then how come you have accepted it’s existence? And suppose if you deny its presence then also it will remain there. In the same way the Gods and Goddesses are .real, and even you can acquire their glimpse after attaining a certain level in spirituality.

Basically we consider only those things authentic, which we are able to see, when in fact it is but just a millionth part of the creation. The whole universe is distributed into two parts--physical and metaphysical. And this metaphysical universe is beyond our realisation. It consists of many worlds which are unique in every way in comparison to the physical one and a person can enter it only through the power of Sadhana.

 
Q.   Will you perform some of your skills in front of us?
A.  

It is not a juggler’s play, which can be exhibited everywhere; only those people perform miracles who are mean and want to meet their selfish ends. The ambition of my life is to perform reliable tasks and I am determined to do so. Miracles always prove to be obstacles in this field, therefore even if you put faith in me or not, I cannot step down from my principles.

However, miracles can be experienced from time to time, and can only be exhibited under special circumstances.

 
Q.   Do you have a Guru, or are you keen on proving yourself as accomplished?
A.  

I am nothing but a particle of dust and am performing all these deeds on the order of my Guru who is my soul and life. My Gurudev, Paramhans Swami Sachidanand is the most eminent personality of the spiritual world and is the organizer of Siddhashram. Though I will return back to him, as soon as he orders me, my disciples will continue to kindle the flame of Mantra-Tantra in the hearts of millions.

 
Q.   We also want to meet your Guru.
A.  

It is simply impossible for an ordinary person. He remains in ‘Siddhashram’ and as I have cleared earlier, he can be contacted only through Sadhana.

Even the Gods are eager to acquire his glimpse. It is possible only through the help of a Guru related to the Siddhashram, and thus a person can meet him after accomplishing ‘Sadhanas’ of the highest order.

 
Q.   Your disciples consider you as a manifestation of God. Have you hypnotised them?
A.  

It is their feeling, that they say so. It is not my wish to be called a God. I only want to remain a human being; and there is no need to hypnotise the disciples because they are all inseparable part of my heart and there is no place for meanness in this relationship. You can understand this exalted state only after becoming a disciple. And you can consider the Guru in any form because in this field one gains according to one’s devotion. This is a world of emotions completely liberated from the grasp of the materialistic world.

 
Q.   The country is undergoing tumultuous conditions. Isn’t it your duty to solve the problems of the nation through your divinity, when you can accomplish impossible feats in seconds?
A.  

Whatever I am doing is for the benefit of mankind and it is my duty to do so. Nevertheless no Yogi normally tries to interrupt with the possibilities of nature. Also there is a special time for every task. It will however be more honourable if we triumph over the opposite circumstances through our efforts and Sadhanas.

 
Q.   How many disciples of yours have been able to attain ‘Siddhis’ (powers)? Will you introduce them to us?
A.  

I am very lucky to have such disciples, who have proved their ability by acquiring success in distinguished Sadhanas and attaining Siddhis’ of the highest level. Some of them have even visited Siddhashram’. Among these successful disciples there are people pertaining to different classes of society and the women have not lagged behind. In the future all my disciples will come forward, illuminating the whole world like the Sun, and will represent the spiritual age. They will give a new direction; a new light to the society and thus will be able to drive away the darkness from the minds of millions.

 
Q.   Only time will decide (if it is right or wrong). But please tell us about the different knowledges and lores that one can achieve through you?
A.  

You are quite right, time is the best judge. Nevertheless, I had an inclination towards every ancient knowledge of India and today most of the people visit me with the hope of acquiring knowledges like Astrology, Karnikand, Tantra, Mantra, Ayurved, Paarad Vigyan. Surya Vigyan, Hypnotism etc. I have my own criteria for an eligible disciple, and a half hearted person cannot stand my test.

But those who are determined, face all the challenges smilingly. The flame of Sadhana continues to ignite in their hearts and thus they become precious jewels, of this field, in future. My doors are always open to such aspirants who are willing to sacrifice themselves for achieving these extraordinary knowledges.

 
Q.   What are your future plans? To increase the number of disciples, to establish your institution at an international level or to rebuild the nation?
A.  

I don’t wish for a train of disciples. My institution is based on humanitarian principles and it will surely reach the top. Every alert aspirant will surely come in its contact. Nobody is satisfied in today’s social order. Everybody desires to rise upward and view life in a more pleasant way. It is my wish that every person of society achieves success; a desire for wisdom, imagination, spiritualism is born in them and thus they mould a new life with the assistance of Sadhanas. Then only ‘my’ presence will be justified, then only this vast institution will prove its utility and then only the human life will achieve totality. I dedicate all the moments of my life, and every drop of my blood, for the cause of such a sacred purpose.

and I hope it will help you understand Dr. Narayan Dutt Shrimali, you guys too can do it what you need is the devotion, faith and belief   and confidence...

Regards

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MrPedantic  +  179531 Fri, 06 Jan 06 01:13 AM

Thanks for that, PF.

How long have you known about him?

MrP

Passionate_freak  +  179589 Fri, 06 Jan 06 05:42 AM

My pleasure MrP.,

Well, I knew him when he was alive. But I was with Jehovah's witnesses and regarded all these kind of stuffs as the satanic cult. Later when I got know about Einstein and his later experiments, I realized the truth and started it and tell you MrP. I found the relief and the wholeness of myself into him. When I read about him, I have really a different and out of this world kind of feeling and I just want to fly to him at his place SIDDH ASHRAM.

But, I got a whole lot things to do and acquire before so I'd be able to go to him and put my head on his HOLY FEET, I don't know MrP. when that moment will come !!! I want nothing, no diamonds, no wealth and no heaven I just desire him to call me by my name and allow to be with him.

And I'm in some kind of practice at the moment so that slowly I can reach to the perfection and could meet him on the place where Einstein failed to go.

Well, what if I suggets you to visit a site from where I posted an interview for you earlier ???

Love to hear from you.

Regards 

Passionate_freak  +  179604 Fri, 06 Jan 06 07:51 AM

Hi there MrP/Sextus and all who are looking to get something in Astrology and kind of stufss...

I'm telling you something about Dr. Shrimali ( I've got it from a site)  and will tell you about an Eastern Tantrik later...

"I am foreseeing a great massacre in the coming months ... and blood on the whole earth due to the arrogance of a neighbouring nation"... and gloominess would prevail in Dr. Shrimaliji's eyes ...

I do not know much about Shrimaliji as a Guru, but I am totally aware of his abilities as a successful astrologer. I have had the honour to accompany him in the Astrologer's Conferences and have seen him presiding as the chairman of the World's Astrological Convention. I have realised that through he is very sentimental, he is an excellent astrologer.

One experiences happiness and satisfaction on obtaining his glimpse and undergoes undefined intoxication on acquiring his company. A strange tranquility is felt and it seems as if we are sitting with a notable individuality or to be more precise a divine being. I have seen him smiling and laughing and have also witnessed him undergoing spell of gloominess and seriousness.

Yet, he is away from all kinds of mental anxieties and tensions. He is not affected by the family problems either, because he is always busy composing one thing or the other, let it be a poetry, a magazine or a book based on Astrology.

Shrimaliji is the first person who has opposed the stereotyped traditions and has thus presented Astrology to the society in other languages apart from Sanskrit. He established this science in a more relaxed and simple way. He tried his best to fight out the fanaticism and bigotism and it is only due to his great efforts that today Jyotish Conferences are held frequently at different places. Apart from this, Astrology and the people practicing it, are conferred a respectable place in the society. People have started looking upon it as an authentic lore and it has only been possible due to the amazing endeavours of Shrimaliji.

I have known him since a long time. He would always become morbid whenever a catastrophe was about to take place. When India faced the assault of China in the year '62, I contacted him on the phone and said, "Shrimaliji, a calamity has broken on the country. What will happen?" Shrimaliji replied on the phone itself, "Through India will unstabilize a little, it will stand up firmly on the face of the world in order to redeem it's self respect." And these few lines proved to be true in the coming days. India faced a humiliation but was also filled with self pride and was able to contain itself. As a result India inflicted a crushing defeat on Pakistan, during their conflict. I had met Shrimaliji in an Astrologer's meet which was held a few months before this war. I realised that Shrimaliji was very sad and troubled, and when I inquired about his anxiety and whether he was sound physically, he replied with desolate eyes -

"I am witnessing afflictions on India. The afflictions of war, calamity and catastrophe". He recomposed himself the next moment and his eyes glistened with brilliance, "But it is necessary", he continued, "because this will be the best opportunity for India to exhibit it's self respect and the world will realise India as a complete power after this war."

"What...?" I was dumbfounded.

Shrimaliji replied "Yes an adjoining nation will attack India in it's arrogance."

"This incident is bound to happen in the near future, I am witnessing a great massacre, uncountable war prisoners and I am foreseeing the land full of blood"... with this he stopped abruptly and started staring at the sky unceasingly.

All his prophesies proved authentic in a matter of months. Till today his lines are written in my diary as such, that it is right and necessary for such a war to take place, because due to this our country will be able to establish it's own self respect in the world. After this war the whole world will realise that India is a complete power in itself.

After this incident, I could not maintain contact with him as he had ceased taking part in the "Astrology Conventions", suspended his travels and was totally lost in himself. On one opportunity, when I met him in Delhi, I asked him the reason for not participating in the Conferences.

Shrimaliji replied, "Astrology is an honourable science, and when a respectable knowledge reaches the hands of lowly and petty people, it faces downfall. Faith is shattered and trust is withheld. I am seeing that people who do not possess even the basic knowledge of this science are claiming themselves to be astrologers of world fame, hence the downfall of this ancient knowledge has commenced, and as I consider myself unfit to sit amidst such world famous Astrologers, I have backed out.

And, I have also realised with dismay, that in every colony and community if a person is unable to acquire a job, he mugs up four-six books of Shrimaliji and claims to be a renowned astrologer. Apart from this he installs a board with "World famous Astrologer" written on it. In India today there are no Astrologers left of district fame or national fame, only the astrologers with international fame are presiding today.

I continuously obtained information about Shrimaliji through phone or other people and I intensely desired to spend a small period in his company and expand my knowledge in Astrology. He has such as unimaginable and treasured knowledge of "Falit Jyotish" that if I gain some knowledge from him and write a book on it, then it will be in itself a great service towards the nation. Though willing, he is unable to spare time and when I last met him, I found him totally engrossed in the composition of this Magazine and organising of Sadhana Camps. He has created a new path in order to resurrect the precious and ancient knowledge of India. He also stated "India is the prosperity of the world. Spiritualism, Yog and the Mantras are all Indian lores and they ought to be preserved. I will feel greatly relieved if I am able to utilize my whole self for this work." With this his face was overwhelmed with confidence.

After this meeting, I couldn't contact him for three-four years. I had moved to Europe for a year or two, and he also seemed to be busy in converting his thoughts into reality. However, I felt uncomfortable within and I desired to spend some time with him at any cost.

Recently I had the privilege to meet him at his residence in Delhi. He seemed weaker, but then also his face was gleaming with a glow of vigour, virility and dignity. I experienced a sense of pride and self confidence in him. There was no exciting news on the face of the world till that date.

One evening I was sitting with Shrimaliji in a balcony. He was reading a magazine when suddenly his facial features changed and he became serious. Keeping the magazine aside he started staring towards the sky in a sad and troubled mood.

I asked Shrimaliji why he was staring at the sky with such seriousness, when the whole sky was clear and filled with tranquility.

He gripped my hand suddenly and said that the redness of the sky is not elegant or attractive as it indicates the colour of blood. I am foreseeing pools of blood, a great slaughter, such a slaughter which is above imagination.... and all in the near future.

I became still for a moment. I recovered saying, "Shrimaliji, I am not experiencing such tensions in any corner of the world which can lead into a war. However, the world seems more serene, calm and peaceful than usual."

Shrimaliji did not speak anything, but he uttered slowly "Whatever I am seeing is true. I am experiencing the flowing blood of thousands of people in the redness of the sky. The blood which shall flow because of war, haughtiness, arrogance and due to the will to make oneself famous."

I remained quiet, but after a few days when I came across the news of America attacking Iraq I instantly remembered the prediction of Shrimaliji. He had just mentioned it only a few days ago, when he had witnessed blood in the redness of the setting sun, and when those days this great massacre was taking place, and the most sophisticated weaponry was being used, it seemed as if the whole world was going to be engulfed in blood. How precise are the predictions of Shrimaliji! How capably he is able to read the prophesies written on the forehead of the sky! Apart from this, he becomes greatly troubled and melancholy on experiencing such plunders and massacres. Only on seeing the emptiness and morbidness in his affectionate eyes, did I realise his agony for the first time.

I purposely reached Delhi during the war, only to find him sitting cheerlessly in his office. I said that whatever you had prophesised is coming out to be true. This war is being considered as one of the most fatal ones. The whole world is concerned about safety and moreover the equilibrium of the powers is wavering. Iraq is facing destruction and Soviet Union is not helping it in any way. Had U.S.S.R. backed up Iraq, America would not have dared to attack it.

Shrimaliji gazed at me, there was a deep silence and morbidness in his eyes. He said that it is Soviet Union's limitations due to which it is not in a position to back Iraq. On the contrary I am witnessing the splitting up of Soviet Union, in the near future", he added.

I was taken aback by this astonishing statement. I could not make out, how it was possible? Disintegration of a Super Power like Soviet Union was quite unimaginable. Who will believe in the splitting up of U.S.S.R., when there were no such indications.

I was myself full of doubts and I said to him, that you are saying U.S.S.R. will disintegrate. U.S.S.R. which is considered as the greatest power, an unbeatable force and which has made the whole world realise that it is capable of withholding the might of every Super power, and it is only due to its efforts that a power equilibirium has been maintained in the world.

Whatever Shrimaliji predicted at that that time is written down in my diary. It says that though Soviet Union seems to be invincible, it is completely hollow within and thus will face destruction. It will disintegrate in small portions and in the coming years the power equilibrium will be disturbed. The coming days will present America as a bully and thus it's pressure on the whole world will increase.

I did not say anything, but my intellect was not accepting that such an incident could happen. It was a prophesy which could not be believed, but I did not want to cut off Shrimaliji's remark in between therefore I remained quiet and left after conversing with him for a few more minutes. But history has witnessed, that all the prophesies of this great seer have come out to be true. A super power like U.S.S.R. disintegrated into small countries whereas America engaged itself in declaring itself the top most authority. In reality, I have realised that Shrimaliji possesses a divine power and he has deeply premeditated on the knowledge of Astrology. He has an ability to grasp the coming incidents. His predictions are complete and authentic in themselves.

A few days back when China had lent missiles to Pakistan, it seemed as if there was an intimate friendship between them. I rang Gr. Shrimaliji at Jodhpur and said - "We are placed between Pakistan and China, whereas the grip of America is tightening on us gradually."

Shrimaliji replied on the phone itself- " The coming days will witness our close friendship with China. It will prove to be our most faithful friend and a close ally ...., and a new power equilibrium will be formed by India, China and one other country."

It all seemed strange. China which had damaged our self respect and grabbed our land, will prove to be our closest ally! It was all unbelieving, but I have complete faith in Shrimaliji's knowledge. The part thirty years are it's evidence and I am assured that this prophesy will prove true in the coming days.

Shrimaliji is in fact the most unique astrologer, Mantragya and saint of this century. This is our great honour that we are living in the times of such a great seer,,,, Dr. Narayan Dutt Shrimaliji... , I present my humble salutations to him.

Sextus  +  179787 Fri, 06 Jan 06 08:55 PM

PF, thanks for all this information. You do take this matter seriously.

I do admire you for your being able to believe in all this stuff.

By the way, can't accurate prediction be explained by empirical induction, and common sense reasoning in general? I mean, it seems that, for instance, almost anybody knows how dangerous China might be in the future.

Cheers,

Sextus

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MrPedantic  +  179829 Sat, 07 Jan 06 12:30 AM
 Passionate_freak wrote:

Well, what if I suggets you to visit a site from where I posted an interview for you earlier ???

Please do, PF. I'd be very interested.

Best wishes

MrP

LanguageLover  +  180094 Sat, 07 Jan 06 08:22 PM
I have a question. In the interview, there are some references to god and godessess. So, all the gods are responsible for the creation? I'd just like to know more about gods issue in this particular faith. Thanks.
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Passionate_freak  +  180176 Sun, 08 Jan 06 06:04 AM

Hi LanguageLover,

Hmm, I'm quite kind of impressed by your question and hope you'd be gaining the knowledge on this particular matter.

Well, whatever we mankind have interpreted the God in differnet views or else the God is only one, the single power. As a government has it's branches to run the system smoothly the God too has seperated its oneness into many, it's what I believe.

There are lots of groups in yahoo too which will help you on the matter.

Regards

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