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Sanz  +  173168 Thu, 22 Dec 05 07:24 AM

Do you think that all those kind of mystical things (astrology, tarot, ouija, etc.) are just lies and a way to swindle people or they really can help us?

 

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TeacherBrian  +  173637 Fri, 23 Dec 05 06:16 PM
 Sanz wrote:

Do you think that all those kind of mystical things (astrology, tarot, ouija, etc.) are just lies and a way to swindle people or they really can help us?


Some people say that it is all lies. But I am not going to publish my name in case I get struck down by lightning!

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Forbes  +  173707 Fri, 23 Dec 05 10:54 PM

There are three main systems of Astrolgy - Chinese, Indian and Western. They are mutually inconsistent and so cannot all be true. In fact they are all unlikely to be true. Why should the whole of one's life be depend on when you were born? Do two people born at the same moment follow the same path in life? The stars and the planets are so far away that they cannot possibly have a discernible effect on individual human beings. If they did, then as a matter of physics we would be affected by all the objects around us.

It also seems highly unlikely that the future can be predicted by consulting Tarot cards. Predictions are often vague. The classic one is "I see you crossing water." Nevertheless, consulting a fortune teller (of whatever kind) when you have a difficult decision to make can be of psycholgical benefit to some people. It can help you to unconsciously reach the decision that may be best. Of course it can make the decision for you and give you an excuse if things go wrong. In practice when making difficult decisions we do not usually have all the information we need. Whether we like it or not, we have to rely on our intuition. Fortune telling ceremonies can unlock the intuitive faculty. Even people who do not believe in fortune telling will discuss important decisions with friends, family or advisers. A chat over a cup of tea is as much a ceremony as shaking sticks out of a container in a temple.

Ouija boards are very interesting. If there is an explanation of why the glass moves about I do not know what it is, but I do not believe it is the spirits of the dead. I have always felt that if the dead were meant to communicate with us it would be lot easier and that they would make a lot more sense than some of the information that comes through on ouija boards. If the dead take the trouble to attend when ouija boards are in use (and how would they know at such short notice?) they would surely come across with a clear message. However, clearly something is happening. I hesitate to speculate further.

There are a lot of charlatans about and a lot of gullible people, but many people who practise astrology, fortune telling and spiritualism sincerely believe in it. To characterise everyone who does as a swindler would be like the adherent of one religion insisting that the priests of all other religions are insincere and only in it for the money.

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MrPedantic  +  173714 Fri, 23 Dec 05 11:13 PM

<If they did, then as a matter of physics we would be affected by all the objects around us.>

I should be very surprised if the feeble light from Alpha Centauri were to affect me in any way. But the light from the sun certainly affects me – quite dramatically, when the sun itself sinks below the horizon. And the moon seems to have some significant effects, too – or so those who live by the sea tell me.

(And no doubt a physicist somewhere is at this very moment investigating the sub-atomic effects of chairs and tables on the human body.)

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Passionate_freak  +  175901 Thu, 29 Dec 05 06:45 AM

Hello Everybody,

Well, yes Forbes is right telling about astrology, but I don't agree him totally. Because I've found the astrology very helpfull and really astonishing too.But don't know how it seems to be so correct. It's kind of psychic power that reveals the things.

Physics??? Even the Einstein believed in the Eastern Scriptures and declared each and every technology has its base on them !!! Well, most of the people haven't heard of it .

If you can find Einstein's last book, not completed: Einstein's Theory and another book Above Science.

When everything  science related fails, the PARASCIENCE starts and I bet you won't beleive that NASA got a branch which deals and experiments in Parascience.

I've posted something about it here on the forum, find it.

Regards

saw rose

 

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MrPedantic  +  176263 Thu, 29 Dec 05 11:52 PM
 Passionate_freak wrote:

I've found the astrology very helpfull and really astonishing too.

Do you have an example, PF, out of interest? (If that's not a personal question.)

MrP

Sextus  +  177194 Sat, 31 Dec 05 05:54 PM
 Passionate_freak wrote:

When everything  science related fails, the PARASCIENCE starts and I bet you won't beleive that NASA got a branch which deals and experiments in Parascience.

Could you please be more precise?

Also, it doesn't seem to me that you can compare parascientific experiments with astrology, tarot and the like. You should be more cautious, don't you think?

Sextus

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Passionate_freak  +  177372 Sun, 01 Jan 06 06:36 AM

Well,

The science has developed many branches and given name of its own to the traditional things such is the case to the Parascience too.You call it  Astrology, Tarot or parascience, all related to the same thing, the Psychic power or the superantural power. And if you go further in it you'd find out the truth yourself.

 

Anyway thanks for the words.

Catch you later

Passionate_freak  +  177378 Sun, 01 Jan 06 07:02 AM

Well, like telling about the future and this kind of things,

and tell U one thing the most revered one was few years back on this earth called Dr. Narayan Dutt Shrimali who's the best and only authentic person on this kind of Psychic power and  he is the authorized person of the SIDDHASHRAM the place which looks after this kind of things and keeps the balance of spiritualism and the materialism and this kind of things. It's the place where Einstein wanted to go in his last moment and practicing the psychic powers and he succeeded in transforming his body into the wave/energy.

catch U later

regards

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