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Tuongvan  +  626658 Tue, 30 Dec 08 02:33 PM
Dear teachers,
Can I say like this?:

He not only doesn't buy my goods  but also disparrage them.

Thank you in advance
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Mister Micawber  +  626688 Tue, 30 Dec 08 03:37 PM

Almost.

Not only does he not buy my goods, but he also disparages them.
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Thank you Mister Micawbwe very much
Verb_aTIM  +  627323 Wed, 31 Dec 08 05:09 AM
Tuongvan
Can I say like this?:
     He not only doesn't buy my goods  but also disparrage them.


As long as you follow the parralel construction pattern, you are right.

    He   not only         doesn't buy             my goods,
            but also          (do)  disparrage     them.

           (Parallel)       (Both phrases headed by a verb.).

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nona the brit  +  627480 Wed, 31 Dec 08 08:39 AM
Are you suggesting this would be ok?

He not only doesn't buy my goods but also does disparage them.

I suppose so...but it isn't a very natural way to express this.
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Avangi  +  628257 Thu, 01 Jan 09 03:23 AM
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Tuongvan Can I say like this?: He not only doesn't buy my goods  but also disparrage them.

As long as you follow the parralel construction pattern, you are right.

    He   not only         doesn't buy             my goods,
            but also          (do)  disparrage     them.    (do you mean, "the verb, to do" ? -  Nona took your solution to be "does disparrage."  What's your intention?  I take it as meaning the user may choose between "he do disparrage" and "he disparrage."
           (Parallel)       (Both phrases headed by a verb.).  TIM  ”
Hi, Tim.  This seems thoughtful enough, but a bit manque.  The devil is in the details.

It seems to me the details of your parallel are not correct.  I would put it:

                  He      not only        doesn't buy               my goods,
(but also)   [he]     <---------      does disparrage         them.   (not idiomatic)
   OR         [he]        [also]         disparrages               them.

The thing that was wrong in the OP and the thing which I believe is still wrong in your analysis, is simply the agreement of subject and verb as to person and number, "He also disparrage disparrages them," as Mister Micawber indicated.

Best wishes for a happy and prosperous 2009!  (<:o)) Party!!!(8) Music(ninja) Ninja
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myeung  +  628309 Thu, 01 Jan 09 04:47 AM
hi all,

i don't know why we need to put "does" before disparrages?  Also, as my teacher said before, the important one had to put in second. For example , Not only you don't do your homework, but also you copy it from the classmates.Is she right?

 
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Avangi  +  628333 Thu, 01 Jan 09 05:15 AM
Note that TIM does not put "does" before "disparrages" (which would be a correct optional form of the simple present), he puts "do" before "disparrage," without the "s," which is a plural form of the verb: "We do disparrage them."  "They do disparrage them."  The sentence calls for singular:  "He does disparrage them."

The "do" is required in negative statements, and in questions, and may be used in positive statements for emphasis:
"Do you disparrage them?"
"I do not disparrage them!"
"I do repudiate my sins."

I have always been taught to say, "Not only don't you do your homework, but you also copy it from your classmates."  I would never say it the way your teacher suggests, but it may be correct.

Best wishes,  Happy New Year!   - A.  (<:o)) Party!!!
Yankee  +  628405 Thu, 01 Jan 09 06:55 AM
Just a couple of additional comments:

Please note that this word contains only one R: disparage

myeung
I don't know why we need to put "does" before disparages?”
Basically, you should never use "does" with "disparages". 
It is possible to use "does disparage" to form a question, for example.  However, as Avangi pointed out in his post, the use of "does disparage" would not be idiomatic in this particular sentence. 


The wording/word order in both of the following sentences would be OK (but my personal preference would be the first one):

- Not only do you not do your homework, but you also copy it from the classmates.
- Not only don't you do your homework, but you also copy it from the classmates.


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