Tizry Syahnon  +  278552 Tue, 10 Oct 06 08:14 AM Hi EFers and teachers around.   I need to justify myself about which sentences below are correct:   (I did search and study the thread but still fail to make myself clear on this)   1) I would not have to realize that mistake until I join and intensively study the languange at englishforum.com.   2) I would not have realized that mistake until I join and intensively study the languange at englishforum.com.   3) I would not to have realized that mistake until I join and intensively study the languange at englishforum.com.   Thanks Tizry Syahnon Joined on Tue, Sep 26 2006 Malaysia New Member 45 A swallow does not make a summer, but a journey of a thousand miles must start with the first step.

	nona the brit  +  278567 Tue, 10 Oct 06 09:12 AM None of them are quite right although the only problem with 2) is the tenses further along in the sentence. I would not have realised that mistake until I joined and intensively studied the language at englishforum.com. nona the brit Joined on Wed, Sep 22 2004 England Veteran Member 11,713 The name says it all. Tenses

	Tizry Syahnon  +  278587 Tue, 10 Oct 06 09:44 AM Hi NTB May I know what is the right sentence? I still didn't get it clear. Are you saying that we are not allowed to use the word to after using would have not------------> and uses simple tense for the sentence instead of past tense?   Tizry Syahnon Tenses, Past Tenses