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Pucca  +  696497 Sat, 11 Apr 09 01:52 AM
Hello all! Smile


I know that there might be lots of threads regarding numbers. I've been searching but I don't seem to be able to find one about what I want to know.


How do you read this number? "1,23"  


One comma twenty-three?          (Hehe, I bet it's not like that. That would be Spanish...)


Thanks in advance!

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AlpheccaStars  +  696503 Sat, 11 Apr 09 02:35 AM
OH, another European / British versus Americanism!!!

In the US, we use the comma as a thousands separator, and a period (full stop) as the division between whole numbers and decimals. 

In Euorpe, it is just the opposite.  [EDIT] In some places.  Maybe with globalization, the American system is being more widely accepted now I have seen the number one million written in Europe as 1.000.000,00


Date formats are different, too. In the US, we normally write MM/DD/YYYY, but in Europe, they write DD/MM/YYYY.  I learned this the hard way when thinking that the deadline was April 3rd, when in reality is was March 4th....

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Kooyeen  +  696580 Sat, 11 Apr 09 10:51 AM
Pucca
“How do you read this number? "1,23"   ”


That is not a number! Wink

If by that you meant a number between 1 and 2, then it should have been 1.23 <-- You use the point.

A comma is used for the thousands, millions, and so on:

1,000 = A thousand

1,000,000,000 = A billion


To read the part after the decimal point, you need to say each number separately, like this:

1.23 => One point two three.

π = 3.14 => Pi equals three point one four.


In Italian we would say "one comma twenty-three" and "three comma fourteen" instead, and write 1,23 and 3,14. It must be so in Spain too. Smile (yes, it is so, I forgot you said it in your post, LOL).


EDIT: It's so in the UK too, it seems. I have never seen anything written in English where a comma was used instead of a dot (decimal point). This might be interesing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_point#Countries_using_Arabic_numerals_with_decimal_point


Anyway, several professors in Italy (especially if they are researchers) actually use or try to use the decimal point instead of the comma, because they rely on English for their studies. When you do everything in English, after a while the comma starts to look weird (it already looks weird to me, I just expect the point). Wink

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Tanit  +  696624 Sat, 11 Apr 09 03:01 PM
Kooyeen

To read the part after the decimal point, you need to say each number separately, like this:

1.23 => One point two three.

π = 3.14 => Pi equals three point one four.


That's what I would say, either, and what Swann* considers correct:

Swann

We write and say decimals like this:

0.4      nought point four (NOT nought comma four)

0.374   nought point three seven five (NOT nought point three hundred and seventy-five)

4.7      four point seven

(yes, I know ... Americans don't say "nought" Stick out tongue)


However, I think I've also heard things like "one point twenty-three" (which I might find myself saying Sad), "one and twenty-three" and even just "one twenty-three" (when speaking about money, for instance).


A couple of sites suggest using "hundredths" and "thousandths" (e.g. one point twenty-three hundredths), which I really never heard, not even at my uni in the UK. I wonder whether this is how pupils are taught to read decimal numbers in schools (in English-speaking countries, of course!)

See these pages: LINK1, LINK2, LINK3 and this video:



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* Swann M. (2005) Practical English Usage (3rd edition). Oxford: OUP.

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Pucca  +  696744 Sun, 12 Apr 09 01:14 AM
OH, another European / British versus Americanism!!!

In the US, we use the comma as a thousands separator, and a period (full stop) as the division between whole numbers and decimals. 

In Euorpe, it is just the opposite.  [EDIT] In some places.  Maybe with globalization, the American system is being more widely accepted now I have seen the number one million written in Europe as 1.000.000,00”


I swear I knew it!


Shame on me, I remember reminding myself that you did it the other way round just about 5 minutes before coming to EF to post. Headbang




To read the part after the decimal point, you need to say each number separately, like this:

1.23 => One point two three.

π = 3.14 => Pi equals three point one four.


One point two three? What if it has more than 2 decimals? Can't you say "One point twenty-three"?



Date formats are different, too. In the US, we normally write MM/DD/YYYY, but in Europe, they write DD/MM/YYYY.  I learned this the hard way when thinking that the deadline was April 3rd, when in reality is was March 4th....”


Hehehe, and when did you find that out? 3rd April? Stick out tongue



Pucca  +  696745 Sun, 12 Apr 09 01:17 AM
Oh no, I can't edit my post! Crying


I missed Tanit's post saying that she'd heard people saying "one point twenty-three"  

AlpheccaStars  +  696747 Sun, 12 Apr 09 01:19 AM
Pucca
“Hehehe, and when did you find that out? 3rd April? Stick out tongue


Actually, it was March 5....Super Angry

Pucca  +  696751 Sun, 12 Apr 09 01:28 AM
(At least you did it in time Stick out tongue)
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