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Anonymous  +  831799 Fri, 24 Jul 09 07:47 AM
Do you find anything grammatically incorrect about these sentences?

 

Newton's genius allowed him to deduce this law as the common explanation for why an apple drops to the ground and the moon orbits the earth.

 

http://celestrak.com/columns/v01n01/

 

Fortunately Enheduanna's genius allowed her to integrate the influx and indicate how others could cope with a similar potential catastrophe.

http://www.zyworld.com/DrBernardSButler/Clinical%20Aspects.htm

Forbes  +  831859 Fri, 24 Jul 09 11:40 AM
No.

 

"The genius of Newton allowed him..." would presumably be acceptable to anyone who thought that the original was ungrammatical; it is difficult to justify why one should be correct and the other not.

 

"Newton's genius allowed Newton..." seems awkward. One asks "Why not use a pronoun?"

 

Of course ambiguity can arise if one is not careful. "Newton's father encouraged him to study Latin" is not ambiguous, but "Newton's father said he was good at Latin" is.

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Anonymous, 120 days ago
<but "Newton's father said he was good at Latin" is.>

 

How could that be ambiguous in context?

Forbes  +  831990 Fri, 24 Jul 09 06:47 PM
John and Mary were discussing the education received by Newton and his father. Mary said, "Newton's father said he was good at Latin."
Cool Breeze  +  833073 Sat, 25 Jul 09 02:54 PM
Forbes
“"Newton's genius allowed Newton..." seems awkward. One asks "Why not use a pronoun?" ”

I would say: Newton's genius enabled him to deduce...


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Anonymous, 118 days ago
And the wider cotext/context?
MrPedantic  +  837785 Tue, 28 Jul 09 10:15 PM
If the original examples are grammatically objectionable, then so is e.g.

 

1. Whose mother abandoned him when he was two years old?

 

— which would be bad news for quizmasters.

 

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Danny-K  +  837823 Tue, 28 Jul 09 10:48 PM
Anonymous
“Do you find anything grammatically incorrect about these sentences?

 

 

Newton's genius allowed him to deduce this law as the common explanation for why an apple drops to the ground and the moon orbits the earth.

 http://celestrak.com/columns/v01n01/

 

Fortunately Enheduanna's genius allowed her to integrate the influx and indicate how others could cope with a similar potential catastrophe.

http://www.zyworld.com/DrBernardSButler/Clinical%20Aspects.htm

 

 

Okay, let's have a bash at this. ( What is this? A let's 'split hairs' fun and games post?)

 

Hmm. . .  would the first sentence be better as:

 

Newton's genius allowed him to deduce that this law was the common explanation for why an apple drops to the ground and the moon orbits the earth.

 

Clue: allowed (past tense) hence the inclusion of 'was'. 'That' just tidies it up.

 

Why include the second sentence? There's nothing seriously wrong with it.

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Anonymous, 115 days ago
<( What is this? A let's 'split hairs' fun and games post?)>

 

Could be, but then it might be a "getting into the nitty-gritty of language" post, which is what this forum is about.

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