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Anonymous  #309511  Mon, 01 Jan 07 09:27 PM
I don't understand how you make Shimon bar kosba as a palestinian who fought against the romans,yes i guess you are right,you have history since eddom,moav and more... Stick out tongue [:P] *l
  
J Lewis  #309628  Tue, 02 Jan 07 08:54 AM
The group of peoples known as Arabs existed long before the birth of Islam. They didn't suddenly appear from nowhere! In ancient times the Hebrews were just one of these peoples and did not stand out for any particular difference. The exile of the city population to Babylon changed this and when they returned they had no land, so they established a trading community which spread all over Europe and North Africa and beyond, long before the destruction of Jerusalem. Their religion became important to them as a way of holding together this community. This is what made them different; it wasn't a racial difference. Nowadays a lot of Jews don't look like Arabs because they recruited people from the countries where they lived, in spite of their claims about racial purity. That explains why European Jews look European, Ethiopian Jews are black, etc. Of course each nation writes its own history, but it's absurd to make big distinctions between the Jews and the Arabs of thousands of years ago. They were the same people.
  
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Aleen  #310079  Wed, 03 Jan 07 04:56 PM
ya they were the same ppl but there is a difference indeed, israelis are the children of Israel/Jacob and Arabs are the decendantes  of Ishmael  an issue that really matter for the israelis i guess. Anyway ,while the children of israel were in egypt , Canaan were in palestine or as it was called "The land of Canaan"  so i was refering to them after that distinguish not before it 
  
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Aleen  #310080  Wed, 03 Jan 07 04:57 PM

 Anonymous wrote:
I don't understand how you make Shimon bar kosba as a palestinian who fought against the romans,yes i guess you are right,you have history since eddom,moav and more... Stick out tongue [:P] *l

obviously i didn't at all

  
J Lewis  #310111  Wed, 03 Jan 07 07:19 PM
Did the children of Israel really spend time in Egypt? I've read that the Egyptians themselves never wrote about them or about the Ten Plagues etc., although they wrote about other peoples who lived in Egypt. The only source is the Bible and it could all be part of Jewish mythology.
  
Aleen  #310376  Thu, 04 Jan 07 01:34 PM
mmm dunno that's what the history says ,btw it's according to the jewish bible and Qur'an but  if not then where did they live?
Anyway my point is that they weren't in "The land of Canaan"
  
Anonymous  #310506  Thu, 04 Jan 07 08:40 PM

It's like to ask why the muslim in somalia are black ,come on Tongue Tied [:S] lewis there was an article that said that 40% of the ashkenazi jew have link to 4 mothers in Israel years before the arabs came Stick out tongue [:P]

well no matter what i'll say you are pro palestinian so i respect your view,and the palestinian can claims that the caanans were arabs,but they weren't

  
Anonymous  #310590  Fri, 05 Jan 07 12:48 AM

u say they weren't arabs we  say they were so how can u be so sure that you are right not usBig Smile [:D]?

  
Mythical Lady  #311510  Sat, 06 Jan 07 08:11 PM

 J Lewis wrote:
Did the children of Israel really spend time in Egypt? I've read that the Egyptians themselves never wrote about them or about the Ten Plagues etc., although they wrote about other peoples who lived in Egypt. The only source is the Bible and it could all be part of Jewish mythology.

The Holy Quran mentioned some part of the history of Isrealis when telling about the stories of the prophets Jacob, Joseph, Moses and Jesus (pease be upon them). After the prophet Joseph settled and ruled Egypt, he sent to his father Jacob( Isreal) and his brothers and his people living in Palestine to come to Egypt. They had lived there for nearly 400 years till the coming of the prophet Moses. The Isrealis were leading a miserable and oppressed life there under the sovereignty of the Pharaohs. Their only slavation was through Moses who suffered badly from them in turn. After he and his people escaped from Egypt and crossed the Sena desert. He asked them to fight with him to enter Palestine. Yet they failed him and disobeyed him frequently till he died.

  
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