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Anonymous  #539730  Fri, 11 Jul 08 07:43 AM
Hi,

Is it possible to use a participle as a subject?

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Mr Wordy  #539808  Fri, 11 Jul 08 12:29 PM

Yes, this style is possible (with the verb "to be"), but it's unusual in everyday speech or writing. It has a poetic, literary or sometimes old-fashioned feel. The past participle is effectively acting as an adjective. So,

The sky is blue / Blue is the sky

And similarly:

The golden bowl is broken / Broken is the golden bowl

The same is true of those present participles that can behave adjectivally, again with the same poetic feel:

My pounding heart / My heart was pounding / Pounding was my heart

  
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Cool Breeze  #539880  Fri, 11 Jul 08 02:22 PM
Mr Wordy

The golden bowl is broken / Broken is the golden bowl

The same is true of those present participles that can behave adjectivally, again with the same poetic feel:

My pounding heart / My heart was pounding / Pounding was my heart

 

Hi Mr Wordy

I have no objection to the sentences but the participles are not subjects in them, which can clearly be seen if we use a plural subject. In English a plural subject requires a plural verb:

Pounding were our hearts! Broken are the golden bowls.

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Grammar Geek  #539889  Fri, 11 Jul 08 02:33 PM

To have it be the subject, you would have say something like "Damaged? You call this "damaged"? Ruined is how I would describe it. Useless is what it is now."

It's certainly not very common.

 

  
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Mr Wordy  #539896  Fri, 11 Jul 08 02:39 PM

Cool Breeze
the participles are not subjects in them

Thanks CB... I should have noticed that.

 

  
CalifJim  #540126  Fri, 11 Jul 08 08:51 PM
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Is it possible to use a participle as a subject?
Unless you use the cleft structure, as GG did, I don't think it can be done.  The basic problem is that a participle is an adjective.  Adjectives can't be subjects.  Only nouns (or pronouns) can.

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Cool Breeze  #540150  Fri, 11 Jul 08 10:02 PM
CalifJim
The basic problem is that a participle is an adjective.  Adjectives can't be subjects.  Only nouns (or pronouns) can.

CJ 

 

Tongue Tied  I am walking. Walking  is an adjective?

To hear him sing is an unforgettable experience. To hear is an infinitive, in other words, a verb, not a noun or a pronoun. Using an infinitive as a subject may not be common in American English but it has been used that way for centuries  -  and is used as a subject in other varieties of English even today.

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Anonymous  #540261  Sat, 12 Jul 08 01:58 AM
Hi,

You wrote:

To hear is an infinitive, in other words, a verb, not a noun or a pronoun.

Is an infinitive really a  verb? Does that mean a gerund is a verb too? I know an infintive like the one you used and a gerund act as a noun.
  
CalifJim  #540283  Sat, 12 Jul 08 02:48 AM

Cool Breeze
I am walking. Walking  is an adjective?
"allegedly" Smile  See below.

From Introduction to the Grammar of English (Huddleston, Cambridge Textbooks in Linguistics)

... participles are said to be 'verbal adjectives'.

First example given:

He was telling the truth. 

Later:

... a present participle ... allegedly has adjectival properties.  I say 'allegedly' because it is difficult to see any significant functional resemblance to an adjective ... [in the first example on the list]. 

He goes on to say that the -ing words in such examples are clearly verbs, while in other contexts they are clearly adjectives.

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With respect to the original question then, I suppose the more accurate description is that participles are either parts of verb phrases or are adjectives.  In either case, a participle -- being verb or adjective -- cannot be the subject of a sentence unless it is in the cleft sentence structure, as illustrated earlier in the thread by GG.  I think that's the only structure that allows a participle or an adjective to be promoted to the status of a noun phrase so it can be a subject.

At least that's my claim.  Maybe someone can provide a counterexample.  That would be instructive.

Edit:

'Destroyed' is the best description of that town.

Here a participle (adjective) is promoted to a noun and is the subject of the sentence.  So there are cases other than the cleft sentence structure that allow it.  Nevertheless, note the quotes.  It works in the same way that anything in quotes can be promoted to subject:

'Xygneoowytoeyy' is a nonsense word.

'got into the truck' is not a complete sentence. 

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Your question opens up a good many sticky points in the terminology.  Do we (Can we) talk about certain structures by naming them without regard to their function in context?  Or not?  Probably not.  Is love a noun or a verb?  Only context will tell.

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To hear him sing is an unforgettable experience.
to hear him sing is a sentence with a non-finite verb used as a noun phrase in a higher level sentence.  The idea is that the terminological identity of a word or group of words may change depending on which level in a hierarchy of clauses it is considered.  At the lowest level of the "tree", to hear is indeed an infinitive (a non-finite verb), but in the context of the whole sentence (higher in the hierarchical tree), to hear him sing is the subject of the main clause, is nominal in nature, and is called a noun phrase.  (Infinitives are often nominal in nature, so this is not surprising; for example, [I want + noun phrase] can take either of these forms: I want some pizza.  I want to sing.)

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Using an infinitive as a subject may not be common in American English
Actually, infinitives are used in AmE as subjects.  The location geographically or historically has nothing to do with it.  But infinitives (and their complement(s), if any), taken together, can make noun phrases.

To be absolutely precise, it is a noun phrase (NP) that must be the subject of a sentence.  I oversimplified by saying 'noun or pronoun'.

CJ 
  
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