Vincent Teo  +  574863 Thu, 09 Oct 08 04:55 PM Are these sentences considered correct if they are in passive voice? (a) John put the book on the table.     (i)  The book is put on the table by John.     (ii)  The book is put by John on the table. (b) My friend plays football every evening.         (i) Football is played by my friend every evening.     (ii) Football is played every evening by my friend. Vincent Teo Joined on Sat, Mar 31 2007 Veteran Member 5,660 Football

	Clive  +  574900 Thu, 09 Oct 08 07:24 PM Hi, Yes. Clive Clive Joined on Thu, Oct 28 2004 Canada Veteran Member 29,298 El tango argentino es un pensamiento triste que se puede bailar (The tango argentino is a sad thought which can be danced) Enrique Santos Discépolo

	Goodman  +  574915 Thu, 09 Oct 08 08:21 PM (i)       (ii)  The book is put by John on the table. (b) My friend plays football every evening.         (i) .     (ii) Football is played every evening by my friend. One comment: Passive voice by nature has an agent; either it's spoken or otherwise , just like this example "Football is played by my friend every evening." But it can be "agentless". i.e. football is a popular sport played almost in all Asain and European countries.  There is no direct agent here but it's still a passive structure.     Goodman Joined on Mon, Nov 7 2005 Senior Member 3,816 The name says it all! Football

	Cool Breeze  +  574926 Thu, 09 Oct 08 09:01 PM Vincent Teo “ (a) John put the book on the table.     (i)  The book is put on the table by John.     (ii)  The book is put by John on the table. ”   Put is past tense, is is present tense. Change it: The book was put on the table by John. CB Cool Breeze Joined on Fri, Apr 7 2006 Senior Member 3,926 "I hope you'll all live to be 150 years old - and the last voice you hear is mine!" Frank Sinatra on stage in Oslo, Norway, 28 September 1991

	Goodman  +  574961 Thu, 09 Oct 08 11:57 PM Hi, If I take out the [in] and replaced by [by], now, would you see it as "passive" football is a popular sport played (by) almost in all Asain and European countries. This is a car of the future designed and built with the newest technology for safety and comfort. How would you classify this sentence then? Goodman Football

	Huevos  +  574968 Fri, 10 Oct 08 12:22 AM Goodman “How would you classify this sentence then?” Goodman, your sentences are active voice. Their construction is: subject + linking verb (to be), + a noun phrase (predicate nominative). The passive voice, on the other hand, is formed thus: subject + verb to be + past participle of the lexical verb. Huevos Verbs, Constructions, Nouns, Noun Phrases, Predicates, Nominative

	Goodman  +  574971 Fri, 10 Oct 08 12:49 AM You wrote: <<The passive voice, on the other hand, is formed thus: subject + verb to be + past participle of the lexical verb. I wrote: << This is a car of the future designed and built with the newest technology for safety and comfort. >> Question: what do you call [designed] and [built] in this sentence? They are still past particples used passively. That's the way I was taught; this type of structure is passive in nature. If I am worng, I'd very much like to listen to an other expert's opinion. Goodman Verbs

	Huevos  +  574973 Fri, 10 Oct 08 01:03 AM  Goodman, your sentence is "This is a car". The rest is just an adjectival clause modifying "car". Huevos Clauses