Past perfect (with "as if") ?

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yogi2005  #109730  Thu, 16 Jun 05 10:37 PM
hello,

Could anyone tell me if the below sentence ic correct?

He speaks as if he had done the job himself, but in fact it was us who had done most of it.

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paco2004  #109763  Fri, 17 Jun 05 12:06 AM
Yes, it's correct.

The past (subjunctive) in clause:
The event in the as if clause is supposed to take place concurrently with the event in the main clause.
(EX) She speaks as if she had met him before. Actually she didn't meet him before.
(EX) She spoke as if she had met him before. Actually she hadn't met him before that time.

The past perfect in clause:
The event in the as if clause is supposed to take place before the event in the main clause.
(EX) She speaks as if she knew everything. Actually she doesn't know everything.
(EX) She spoke as if she knew everything. Actually she didn't know everything.

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CalifJim  #109832  Fri, 17 Jun 05 07:01 AM
yogi,

It's "if the sentence below is ...", not "if the below sentence is ...". Wink [;)]

The past perfect part is fine. Personally, I would have used "... was we who ..." in the second clause, not "was us who".

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senthilvelann  #110260  Sat, 18 Jun 05 12:56 PM
Dear Paco,

The past perfect in clause:
The event in the as if clause is supposed to take place before the event in the main clause.
(EX) She speaks as if she knew everything. Actually she doesn't know everything.
(EX) She spoke as if she knew everything. Actually she didn't know everything.



Could you please explain, where is the past perfect in the "as if clause" in your example?

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paco2004  #110364  Sat, 18 Jun 05 07:08 PM

Ugh! I put wrong captions for explnations. Thank you for pointing out the mistakes, Senthilvelann.

The past (subjunctive) in clause:
The event in the as if clause is supposed to take place before the event in the main clause.
(EX) She speaks as if she knew everything. Actually she doesn't know everything.
(EX) She spoke as if she knew everything. Actually she didn't know everything.

The past perfect in clause:
The event in the as if clause is supposed to take place concurrently with the event in the main clause.
(EX) She speaks as if she had met him before. Actually she didn't meet him before.
(EX) She spoke as if she had met him before. Actually she hadn't met him before that time.



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