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Anonymous  #369751  Thu, 24 May 07 01:21 PM

Q 41   What's the difference between A and B, and C and D?

A:  This pencil is not long.

B:  This is not a long pencil.


C:  It won't be a long time before he comes.

D:  It won't long before he comes.

  
Feebs11  #370004  Thu, 24 May 07 11:00 PM
 Anonymous wrote:

Q 41   What's the difference between A and B, and C and D?

A:  This pencil is not long.

B:  This is not a long pencil.


C:  It won't be a long time before he comes.

D:  It won't long before he comes.

 

A and B are talking about physical length

C and D are talking about tinme
  
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Feebs11  #370005  Thu, 24 May 07 11:01 PM
 Anonymous wrote:

Q 41   What's the difference between A and B, and C and D?

A:  This pencil is not long.

B:  This is not a long pencil.


C:  It won't be a long time before he comes.

D:  It won't long before he comes.

 

A and B are talking about physical length

C and D are talking about time

There is no difference in meaning between A and B or between C and D.
  
Grammar Geek  #370015  Thu, 24 May 07 11:21 PM

But C is not very idiomatic, at least, not in the U.S.

There might be circumstances when you can say it, but "It won't be long" is a very standard expression when it comes to time.

  
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Anonymous  #370145  Fri, 25 May 07 04:53 AM
Thank you.
  
Anonymous  #370168  Fri, 25 May 07 05:48 AM
 Grammar Geek wrote:

But C is not very idiomatic, at least, not in the U.S.

There might be circumstances when you can say it, but "It won't be long" is a very standard expression when it comes to time.

I see well, but there is another thing I want to ask you.


C:  It won't be a long time before he comes.

D:  It won't be a long time before he comes.

E:  It will be a long time before he comes


I think that in E "a" is the same as "some" and is lilely to b used in affirmative contexts to express some amount or some degree.
So in C "a long time" is a little bit odd.

Is my explanation correct?

  
Spectacled-Girl  #370175  Fri, 25 May 07 06:10 AM
 Anonymous wrote:

Q 41   What's the difference between A and B, and C and D?

A:  This pencil is not long.

B:  This is not a long pencil.


C:  It won't be a long time before he comes.

D:  It won't long before he comes.

D should be ''It won't be long before he comes.''

  
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Anonymous  #370188  Fri, 25 May 07 07:03 AM
 Spectacled-Girl wrote:
 Anonymous wrote:

Q 41   What's the difference between A and B, and C and D?

A:  This pencil is not long.

B:  This is not a long pencil.


C:  It won't be a long time before he comes.

D:  It won't long before he comes.

D should be ''It won't be long before he comes.''

Sorry I miswrote.

There is something I want to ask you.I'd be happy if you answer it.


C:  It won't be a long time before he comes.

D:  It won't be a long time before he comes.

E:  It will be a long time before he comes


I think that in E "a" is the same as "some" and is lilely to b used in affirmative contexts to express some amount or some degree.
So in C "a long time" is a little bit odd.

Is my explanation correct?

  
CalifJim  #370225  Fri, 25 May 07 08:43 AM

A:  This pencil is not long.

B:  This is not a long pencil.

For A, you must be holding up or pointing to a pencil.
For B, you can be holding up or pointing to anything, including a kitchen sink.

CJ

  
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